Redcar Steelworks Ovens To Close For Good
20-10-2015, 17:53
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Re: Redcar Steelworks Ovens To Close For Good
Sadly sod all compared to 50 years plus ago.
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20-10-2015, 18:04
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Re: Redcar Steelworks Ovens To Close For Good
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu
What the Government should be doing is MORE to protect the British Industry of Manufacturing.
This country used to have the best industry going. The Government has completely ruined the North East. Wales Scotland, in the shipyards.
The government could have saved so many Industries, but gave Large contracts overseas
My job is even under greater threat now. And our Union is fighting to save my job, all because of severe cut backs that is being carried out by this awful government.
What they are doing is simply crippling this country, yet are sending billions of pounds of OUR TAX MONEY to overseas countries in aid.
Did you see that poor woman on Question Time having a go at the Tory minster, and she could not even look at that poor woman or answer the question.
We import steel and coal what industry is next to go down the plug hole
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We used to have the plague and open sewers too, what's your point?
Change is inevitable and it will only continue, the government subsidising a plant losing money hand over fist just should not be allowed to happen it just delays the inevitable
Without change you wouldn't have cities such as Leeds that 25 years ago had nothing going for it turn into high technology centres with huge employers such as sky
You're worried about your job ? Change it ! I had to. Maybe you'll like to go and work down the pit ?? I have enormous respect for the miners but there is no way I would ever or could I ever do that job !!
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20-10-2015, 18:05
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Re: Redcar Steelworks Ovens To Close For Good
We're still pretty good at hi-tech: satellites, industrial instrumentation, machine tools and making (other company's) cars.
There's really no future in base commodities / industries here as the cost base is too high even at the minimum wage. If the Chinese want to sell us steel and coal at less than the cost of production just buy it and make products that will give a return.
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21-10-2015, 15:21
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Re: Redcar Steelworks Ovens To Close For Good
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Originally Posted by Osem
I have an idea, why don't we just subsidise every industry which isn't viable then pass on the costs of so doing to ordinary people like Arthur by way of higher prices, taxes etc. ? We could then pay everyone on low incomes/benefits more in order to make up the difference and give further subsidies to the other associated industries which suffer knock on effects of higher costs imposed on them. Simple! What were we all thinking??
After all I'm sure that because he's so keen on protecting British jobs at all costs he never buys anything imported and will be delighted to pay more for all the things he needs. I really can't understand why nobody's thought of this...
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I've an idea to, seeing as the Chinese are here why not have Dave tackle them about the decimation of our steel industry instead of fawning all over them. I'm sure you'd agree that'd be a better idea than having yet another pop at Arthur
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...p-imports.html
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21-10-2015, 16:05
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Re: Redcar Steelworks Ovens To Close For Good
Do you mean like he is doing....
http://www.scunthorpetelegraph.co.uk...ail/story.html
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PRIME minister David Cameron has said he will raise the issue of cheap Chinese steel being "dumped" on the markets with the Chinese premier during his visit to the UK.
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21-10-2015, 16:14
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Re: Redcar Steelworks Ovens To Close For Good
They say Vewwy sowwy Dave. but bisness is bisness.
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21-10-2015, 16:24
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Re: Redcar Steelworks Ovens To Close For Good
If plants are loss-making, then isn't the steel that they produce at below cost, ie dumping.
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21-10-2015, 17:00
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Re: Redcar Steelworks Ovens To Close For Good
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If plants are loss-making, then isn't the steel that they produce at below cost, ie dumping.
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Precisely what china is doing.....
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21-10-2015, 17:13
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Re: Redcar Steelworks Ovens To Close For Good
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Precisely what china is doing.....
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Exactly, the UK is doing what the Chinese are being accused of.
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21-10-2015, 18:51
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Re: Redcar Steelworks Ovens To Close For Good
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Precisely what china is doing.....
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China's cost of production will be much lower than the UK because they have cheap labour and don't have to follow onerous environmental laws etc.
It's quite possible that China can produce steel at the current world price and STILL make a notional profit.
The fact that we cannot says much about our standards.
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