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[Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership
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Old 23-10-2015, 11:57   #541
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You're right, let's just brush aside the inconvenient fact that Corbyn was funded by terror supporters......and tried to hide that
Don't need to brush that aside. It's wrong but then Corbyn has a lot of form for these dodgy associations. The Telegraph had a thing a week or so ago about him and the IRA. Not sure what else can said about it, it's wrong.

When it comes to Party funding though then it is the case that people will bring up the Tories too.
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.....and quite rightly so. One is judged by the company one keeps
Yes, look at Dave and George cosying up to the Saudi's and China
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You are right, it is not binary. I was just emphasising the relative importance of the two. We certainly should be concerned but probably when the hyperbole turns into real Labour Party policy. At the moment it is just a "Corbyn's friends are nutters" fixation. At this point the electorate will have a real choice on policy until then it is just media conjecture where he really will take Labour.
I entirely agree that it's an unhealthy fixation. The media were, for the most part, always going to be pretty hostile to Corbyn.

He appears to be giving them a steady supply of material to work with.

I'm struggling to see the policy options as I'm yet to hear a coherent and achievable set of options come from Mr Corbyn's cabinet.

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Yes, look at Dave and George cosying up to the Saudi's and China
Indeed. Their revolting sycophancy to Saudi Arabia makes me feel nauseous, and the sucking up to China for investment, selling the UK taxpayer an oriental version of PPI, is insane.

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It would be an interesting exercise to compare the leading 1st world countries and look at national infrastructure ownership & investment policy. I wonder how Britain compares in this respect especially the borrowing (at historically cheap rates) to invest in infra projects
We're not that bad as the 1st world collectively appears to have decided to screw over the young in order to concentrate on short-term spending to buy votes.

It's immoral to leave excessive debt to the young but apparently fine to ensure they will struggle to pay the bills they will have as we haven't provided the infrastructure.

I will be ensuring my retirement is self-funded, as I wouldn't blame our youth if they tell us to go rotate given the mess it looks like we're going to leave them, a mess we in turn inherited.
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He appears to be giving them a steady supply of material to work with.

I'm struggling to see the policy options as I'm yet to hear a coherent and achievable set of options come from Mr Corbyn's cabinet.
I still believe he doesn't intend to lead Labour into 2020 and has no desire to become Prime Minister. As you said there appears to be no coherent plan or platform coming from the Leadership but what's just as bad is that he appears to disappear for days at a time without attempting to challenge the Government, dominate a news cycle or set the agenda. He just seems to surface sporadically and appears to have an aversion to the media.

Either he and his team are grossly incompetent and unable to handle the situation they've got themselves into or he is attempting to reshape the party in his own image so when he does step down the grassroots will be firmly established and in a position to deselect moderate MPs and set party policy. The replacement leader will then be from his wing of the party.

It's probably both.
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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

A very prescient post indeed.

He has appointed various people who do an impressive job of appearing incompetent at very least to positions in his shadow cabinet.

Anyone who allows Diane Abbott anywhere near the front bench has issues.
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A very prescient post indeed.

He has appointed various people who do an impressive job of appearing incompetent at very least to positions in his shadow cabinet.

Anyone who allows Diane Abbott anywhere near the front bench has issues.
Jezza has already allowed Diane Abbot near his front bench. And his sofa. And his boudoir.
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Jezza has already allowed Diane Abbot near his front bench. And his sofa. And his boudoir.
Don't even go there!
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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

Labour is now being run just like one of their loony London boroughs of the 70's and 80's. Look how well they did...
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Seumas Milne sent his children to top grammar schools
Hypocrisy that I've come to expect from Labour.......oh, and he's a millionaire as well.....just like all decent Stalinists

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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

I think we're agreed that all politicians are lying hypocritical **** varying only by severity.
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Yes they are pretty much all as bad as each other with a few even worse.
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Seumas Milne sent his children to top grammar schools
Hypocrisy that I've come to expect from Labour.......oh, and he's a millionaire as well.....just like all decent Stalinists

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Don't worry. I have a low opinion of Cameron as well
Funny how so many of these people spend their lives decrying privilege but don't mind enjoying a bit of it themselves when it suits.
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Far from being authentic, Jeremy Corbyn is one of the most dishonest politicians you will see in your lifetime.
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