60M : Free Upgrade delayed

[Russ]

Upgrades in my OH's area weren't due until between December to February, I called up the other day to get a Superhub out and they said they'd need an engineer to install it as there was an "issue" in her locality.

He came a few days later, installed the Superhub and rang Virgin....and promptly activated her upgrade there and then.

Ah the perks of this site being owned by Virgin......ooops did I just say that out loud??










*disclaimer - in case anyone took that seriously, for the record Virgin does not own or have anything to do with Cable Forum...

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Kushan

Absolutely, but I don't think I've ever seen a difference in channels based on the tier. The only times I've ever seen that be different is either due to hardware (VMNG with 4, Shubs with 8) or simply whatever your area happened to have available (some areas still have only 6 D/S I think?).

There used to be in the 10/20/30/50/100 days. If you had a 20Mbps or lower tier you had a DOCSIS 2 profile and one channel, if you had a 30Mbps or higher tier you had a DOCSIS 3 profile and 3+ channels, irrespective of hardware. Superhubs and VMNG300's on 20Mbps or below were restricted to one channel operation.

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Originally Posted by Russ

*disclaimer - in case anyone took that seriously, for the record Virgin does not own or have anything to do with Cable Forum...

... yet

[Kushan]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

There used to be in the 10/20/30/50/100 days. If you had a 20Mbps or lower tier you had a DOCSIS 2 profile and one channel, if you had a 30Mbps or higher tier you had a DOCSIS 3 profile and 3+ channels, irrespective of hardware. Superhubs and VMNG300's on 20Mbps or below were restricted to one channel operation.

Interesting. I guess we'll wait and see but I'd still be surprised as there's really no benefit to segregating users by number of channels.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Kushan

Interesting. I guess we'll wait and see but I'd still be surprised as there's really no benefit to segregating users by number of channels.

I did explain the benefit from VM's perspective given the capability difference between SH2 & SH3. What we don't know is VM's plan for staying with the SH2 for the lower tiers. I imagine that would fall in line with Netgear's strategic programme.

Got my upgrade today.Happy thus far.

[heero_yuy]

Ours has been put back again! Now July 2015 earliest to December 2015. Not that it's really a problem as the 20Mbs streams 1080 HD content without buffering and I can wait for stuff to download or schedule it overnight.

Many fileshare sites limit non-paying downloads to much less anyway.

[Martin_D]

Uddingston still set for March 2015.

[Mr K]

I bet they haven't delayed your price rises...

[qasdfdsaq]

It's funny how one-sided these things are.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Ignition's actually on cable, having cancelled his FTTC service recently IIRC.

I need to keep up.

There is no cable here. I had 2 x FTTC services running into a TP-Link ER-5120.

I cancelled one of the FTTC lines primarily to free up a port in the cabinet so that someone stuck on sub-2Mb ADSL could take it.

It's left me at:



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Originally Posted by General Maximus

VM aren't moving over to 16 channels next year when they release shub3 and move over docsis3.1. The lastest iteration of the shub is shub2ac and it still uses 8 channels.

There are already areas on or prepped to go to 12.

The next version of the Superhub is not going to be a DOCSIS 3.1 device. It's a 24x8 device: 24 downstreams, maximum 1.2Gb, 8 upstreams, maximum 216Mb.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Granted they can configure 4 or 8 upstrewm channels to any symbol rate and that is the toss we're "arguing".

Target is 64QAM throughout, however there will, eventually, be a mixed mode channel which will be 3.2MHz wide, not 6.4, and will be 16QAM for DOCSIS 1.x devices and 64QAM for DOCSIS 2 and higher.

It should be noted though that bonding that mixed mode channel in with the group is something done in the USA where the upstream maxes out at 42MHz. VM have no such restrictions so can probably run with 4 x 6.4MHz 64QAM, local network permitting, with an ASM fallback to 16QAM, and a token 3.2MHz channel for STBs running on the remaining VXRs.

[Martin_D]

Uddingston is set to be completely upgraded by the end of January 2015.