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Old 18-09-2017, 22:31   #2167
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

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Originally Posted by pip08456 View Post
If, as you say, this bill is more extreme and almost certain to be passed, then surely the ones to blame are the ones who blocked the previous less extreme one.
People need to stand by their voting record. The people who pass this bill are those who voted to pass it. If the bill is passed and signed by the President then it is they who take the credit for those whose premiums fall and the blame for those who lose healthcare because of pre-existing conditions.

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Surely if the Democrats and Republicans had got together to come up with an alternative to Obamacare instead of bickering between themselves they would not be in this situation now.
It's not as easy as finding an alternative to Obamacare. People were promised people wouldn't lose insurance and it would be cheaper. How do you do that? You can't. So either people lose protections for pre-existing conditions making other people's healthcare cheaper or the government pays in more as subsidy.

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As both friends of Mick and myself (of both Democrat and Republican persuasion) will tell you Obama care needed reforming. It had ceased to be fit for purpose. That is their opinion not mine nor Mick's.
Everyone has American associates. It's a big country. It's a very divided country on what should happen. Everyone, including Obama himself, has said Obamacare needs improving. Many Democrats from the Sanders wing want Single-payer. Many Republicans want it essentially abolished. Many voters want to keep all the good things about Obamacare but cheaper.

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