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Old 19-03-2017, 13:02   #588
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Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
Maybe it's nothing to do with the EU rights guarantee. Maybe they just don't feel welcome and now see better opportunities elsewhere. There have been many racist incidents targeted at East Europeans, all stirred up by the Brexit vote. It's encouraged the worst section of our society. The NHS is finished and our economy doomed if immigrant workers leave. Time we valued them.
Parliament should have made the guarantee unilaterally as the wiser and more experienced House of Lords advised they do. It was the morally and economically wise choice and would have put the UK in a positive light for the negotiations.
The uncertainty cannot be good for Europeans living in the UK and vice versa. However, the link to hate crimes and the Brexit vote has not been proven and a widely-reported report on this was shown to be flawed.

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
People look at the NHS but another area of concern are social care workers. They are many from Eastern Europe who are carers for people with serious conditions. No idea if we're losing them but that would be a big problem because it's a very difficult job that pays peanuts.
That's one reason why it's very hard to have a Soviet-style top-down quotas system for immigrants.
You end up employing lots of bureaucrats to judge on a job-type-by-job-type-basis if the UK needs Europeans to do vitally important jobs. This deprives those bureaucrats from doing vitally important work themselves and the country is less productive.

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Originally Posted by passingbat View Post
Nothing to do with Brexit voters. Leading Brexiteers wanted guaranteed rights for EU citizens after the referendum took place.
May tried to get this sorted before article 50 was triggered, but the EU refused Blame the United States of Europe for that one.
The EU cannot stop the UK granting continued rights to EU27 citizens to work and reside in the UK.
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