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Originally Posted by Osem
If we remain now it'll be with our tail firmly between our legs and our government in cahoots with those who run the EU will ensure the rules are changed and that we can never leave.
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You don't need the EU in order for our government to screw us over. They can do that anyway. Case in point: their approach to Brexit.
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The UK powerful within the EU? Really? We're so powerful that they wouldn't budge an inch prior to the Brexit vote or since. Please tell me what concessions all the power we have has yielded since Thatcher stood up to them?
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France and Germany have power too. We have the power to block a lot of things but not impose them. The Veto applies to certain areas, big questions like foreign policy and budgets, so any EU army would never get anywhere as long as we were there as we would block it. So the major chances people cite on here were not going to come to a vote as what's the point. Veto would be issued.