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Old 09-03-2017, 20:44   #278
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Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.

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Originally Posted by denphone View Post
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At the time the DWP said because Julius’ arms were working order, he could use them to “climb” stairs and therefore had “mobility”.
As silly as that sounds, it is how the DWP has been operating for a good few years now, they seriously have that mindset.

They will keep operating in such a way as it gains a net expenditure drop from the practice as not everyone will appeal.

They justify it by saying its about "what people can do" instead of "what they cannot do", however I have met no employers who agree with that policy (when considering someone for a new job).

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Originally Posted by nomadking View Post
So EVERYTHING in your post was FALSE. There wasn't even a "crawl to work" comment involved. It's quite possible that he said that he could haul himself up/down stairs at home. If he did, it should have been ignored as that is not the context the question is meant to be applied.

Unless there are other factors we haven't been told about, he is still not eligible for ESA. Being in a wheelchair only gives 9 points, when at least 15 are needed. The reasoning for just 9 points is that many people in wheelchairs DO work, so he could. All that time he would still be receiving the higher rates of mobility DLA or PIP.
I agree there is people in wheelchairs who do work, but the vast majority of them were already employed when they became disabled, keeping a job is very different to trying to get one.

You can get 15 points for a wheelchair, but the wheelchair itself actually is now disregarded by the ESA assessors, they consider that if you have a wheelchair then you are "mobile".

What is even worse is that people without wheelchairs they can "pretend" they have one and as such are mobile.

To get 15 points with a wheelchair would be e.g. if you cannot self propel the wheelchair, in which case you should get 15 points.
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