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Originally Posted by Stuart
This is an example of where media hype has (I believe) damaged society. It's now thought of as weird that people who have no kids (for whatever reason, whether through choice, biology or circumstance) would want to just help kids without being some sort of pervert.
My sister, for instance, used to volunteer for our local council, supervising kids (who had problems at home and were often victims of various kinds of abuse). She would spend a week or two away at a local camp, just supervising these kids, and was frequently able to get them to open up about the problems they had. She had no kids, and didn't want any at the time. It does not automatically follow that she had sexual feelings for them.
Now, I am not saying that there aren't paedophiles. There are. I am saying that the Media (and in particular the Press) have made us as a society think there are more paedophiles than there are.
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I agree. A lot of things in society were previously underground, so people think they are now more prevalent.
I believe that there are no more, or less, paedophiles today than there were years ago.
Are there more paedophiles around than you think?- yes.
Are most people paedophiles?- no.
I was chatting to some friends recently, regarding what we would do if we found a little girl found wandering the streets alone in tears. Some people, mostly women, said that they would comfort her or take her in whilst things were sorted out. I and others said that they wouldn't go near the child, we would keep an eye on her to ensure she didn't go near a busy road etc and call the police. I think it's very sad that the tabloid hysteria obout paedophilia has resulted in this, but there's no way I would want to be accused of touching the girl inappropriately.
Do you remember when they were behind with CRB checks for teachers a few years ago?
Some teachers (who, on the balance of probabilities, weren't child abusers) could not teach until their check came through. Many older children couldn't go to school and were wandering the streets whilst their parents were at work- much more dangerous in my opinion.
Of course, clearing a CRB check doesn't mean that one isn't a child abuser, it could merely mean that one hasn't been caught/convicted of doing it thus far...
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Originally Posted by clumsymum
what sort of "closure" will it give them then? Raking up fetid muck in front of the world will really help them will it ?? OK, I'm not a qualified psychologist, but I can't help feeling that opening all this up could only damage them more, especially as there can never be a trial/conviction or whatever.
According to the lunchtime radio news, 2 of the women making these allegations have given their permission to be fully identified (I think they may even be appearing in the programme). I may be cynical, but I feel this is a case of someone doing ANYTHING just to get their 15 minutes of fame. If they were relatives/friends of mine, I would have strongly advised them NOT to bring this out into the public domain.
Maybe the documentary makers have paid them well, or suggested they'll get good money from the press ...
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If you take a look at the link I provided earlier, one of them has bowel cancer, perhaps she feels she's got nothing to lose by going public now?
Paul Gambaccini is the latest person to add to the allegations:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-schoolchildre
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Originally Posted by Chris
... The viewing and downloading of which, boosted the site traffic stats of wherever he got it, possibly earning the distributor advertising or subscription revenue, and most definitely confirming the demand for such material, thereby directly inducing others to go and make more of it.
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Because of their illegal nature, child porn sites are usually subscription based to make money.
They are encrypted, so a google search won't produce anything. That would be too easy for the police to find.
http://ceop.police.uk/ will often look for key words to alert them to inappropriate internet usage. All these Jimmy Saville threads will most likely be flagged up! Child sex rings will, therefore, talk in code in their forums/chatrooms.
Another way is to, say, create a site dedicated to flowers. On a page showing us what looks like a picture of a hyacinth, the paedophiles will have software that changes it to show a picture of child sex abuse instead.
Operation Ore arrests were mainly from credit card useage on such an illegal site. But, whose to say that someone else wasn't using the credit card, or that it's details hadn't been cloned?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ore
Interestingly, as I understand it, it's not illegal to look at child porn, it's the downloading of it that's the offence as then a person is then "in possession of it". I guess this is to protect people who innocently stumble across it in all innocence.
Otherwise, if someone posted such an image on here, people seeing it before it was deleted would have committed a serious offence!