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Old 14-04-2017, 17:41   #221
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Re: Crisis in the NHS

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
The reason adult social care is not in crisis because of immigrant workers. The social care workers get paid little and funding has been cut. The idea they get paid little because there are Eastern Europeans willing to do for minimum wage as if there would be plenty of money otherwise is nonsense.
I have to disagree there. Basic market economics says otherwise.

It's not the only reason, but if there is no driver i.e. Lack of labour resource, to increase wages then they won't increase simple as that.

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There is not a lot of money in providing social care for vulnerable adults, few can afford private care and this isn't a area of government spending that was ring fenced in 2010. There is a limited amount of money and if you got rid of immigrants and paid UK workers more you would have fewer social care workers until such time as the government puts even more money in or we otherwise find a way to solve this problem.
There's not a lot of money in it because they're getting away with not putting any money in it because they're paying depressed wages.

If they were forced to put more money into then at least we'd be forced into having a proper debate on how we fund social care for the ever increasing age of the population.

Perhaps a care tax or as well as having a private pension plan you have to get a private care plan?

But whilst they can get away with running the system on cheap labour they are not forced to have that uncomfortable debate.
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