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Old 14-07-2017, 22:27   #418
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Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.

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Originally Posted by Taf View Post
A FB forum is full of people who were already on PIP at the higher levels being dropped to zero points by ATOS-Capita-DWP. Some fully win at tribunal, many don't. It's a lottery loaded against claimants, with rules being changed by the DWP to ensure more failures.
every time a benefit is rehauled, e.g. PIP or ESA, its done to achieve target claimants numbers (to save money), but of course is claimed otherwise.

The government having lost the earlier battle to clamp down further on PIP prior to the election, they now have a situation where PIP is still over their budget, and it will be targeted again I expect within 5 years.

It is disgusting, this country can afford it, but we have a manipulated population who simply refuse to pay for it and a government who doesnt believe it should be paid for.

The tories e.g. managed to find several billion to keep the DUP happy (1 billion funding for NI + cost of keeping pension triple lock). The money is always there, the problem is the will for it to be spent.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post

If Channel 4 and others have no difficulty in exposing these people, how on earth can you come to the conclusion that this is not a widespread problem?
Are you saying you gullible and believe what the media tell you?

Remember that documentary about the family getting about 1k a week in housing benefit?

The DWP later revealed there was only 17 claimants in the entire country getting that sort of money, yet the press managed to still find one, 17 out of 10s of millions.

Its also been revealed likewise the benefit cap has a minimal affect on the DWP budget as a very small amount of people get anywhere near those figures in benefits. But of course the cap gained political points which was its purpose.

It seems you support the idea of making people entitled to help suffer just to try and stop very low amount of fraudsters. Its akin to shooting everyone in a town if one person in the town kills someone.

Yes benefit fraud is wrong, but its no worse than things like tax evasion. Both things are defrauding the government of money. Yet tax evasion I suggest is far more widespread, how common is it e.g. for someone self employed to not declare cash income?
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