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Old 12-11-2017, 22:47   #723
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Re: Brexit discussion

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Originally Posted by Osem View Post
Are you suggesting that an extra 350,000 people in the UK every year isn't going to significantly impact adversely on NHS waiting times? Has there been extra funding to cope with all that? It doesn't much matter whether it's migrants or not but the fact is that most of the UK's rapid population growth over the last decade and more has been due to the migration which New Labour vastly underestimated and higher birth rates within immigrant communities.
As I said migration to the UK, especially that from Eastern Europe, tends to be younger and fitter whereas the biggest burdens on the NHS are from the elderly and those with chronic conditions. It makes sense that an increase in population relates to an increase in demand only if that population uses the service equally but instead it's very demographic dependent.

I am not saying it's had no impact, although with the proportion of EU nurses and social workers maybe it's even a positive one, but I am not sure it's one of the 'principal' causes of the rise in waiting times.

Everyone goes on and on about immigration without quantifying the impact it's really had on the NHS but you look at something like diabetes and that's had a dramatic impact: https://www.nhs.uk/news/diabetes/dia...icted-to-rise/

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These bold claims are based on a UK study which reported that the annual NHS cost of the direct treatment of diabetes in the UK will increase from £9.8 billion to £16.9 billion over the next 25 years. The predicted rise would equate to the NHS spending 17% of its entire budget on the condition, up from about 10% today.
10% of the NHS budget, 10%!, relatives only to diabetes. How likely is it immigration comes anywhere near that figure?

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