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Old 09-02-2012, 03:45   #24
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Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities

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Originally Posted by martyh View Post
There always has been and will always be abuse of disabled people .The fact that some charities have chosen to link such abuse to government policy on benefit fraud and welfare cuts is a disgrace .In doing this the charities will segregate the disabled section of society even more .What do these charities think will happen ?do they think the government will do a 'u' turn and cancel all the reforms based on a few stories from charities and organisations we know are against the cuts ?
The government have a lot to answer for and it seems your mission to have cuts driven through will stop at nothing, I find this post of yours sickening.

I remember an interview from cameron on tv where he refered to taxpayers as normal people so in his mind he already has a segregation of people where normal people work, have rights etc. and those who dont are of a lower class with lower rights. We have ideas about things like getting credit companies to pass on info to government regarding credit cards etc. which the idea behind it is to financially restrict people on welfare. Nearly all government policies are removing independendence from vulnerable people as they trying to remove state help which will only lead them to needing families to take them in removing all independance and self confidence.

Labour are also guilty as Im well aware of the propoganda during their reign also, its sickening that both major parties are pretty much the same on this.

Whats notable is the bbc has a lot of anti welfare stories, their panaroma has aired multiple anti welfare programes, eastenders has had anti welfare storylines, and MP's interviewed repeatedly spout lies and rubbish to the news. This over a number of years has manipulated the public into what they are now. Shameless on channel4 hasnt helped the situation either of course. That has a old lady faking a disability in a wheel chair and a long term dole claimant as one of the main characters who spends all day in the boozer. Although at least dispatches is much more balanced than panaroma as well as channel 4 news.

I also find it ironic these sort of stories are never printed by the likes of the daily mail and the sun. Yet they have no issue calling claimants all sorts of names like 'scroungers'.

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry View Post
It is about time victims of Benefit cuts, got together and formed a poltical bloc, so when next time there is a election, they vote the Tories/Lib Dems out!!!
Its only the house of lords who seem to have any sympathy for the disabled.

Both labour and the tories have attacked the sick and vulnerable.

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy View Post
I find it staggering that with our cradle to the grave NHS that so many people are considered as disabled. I suspect the definition has been greatly broadened in order to massage the jobless figures.

There must have been a time in ages past when these people would have had to have worked and a "bad back" or some ill defined malingering would just be an inconvenience rather than a meal ticket for life.

Whilst genuinly disabled must be given help it annoys me to see a car with a disabled badge park in the disabled bay and the driver positively leaps out to go shopping. It's that sort of abuse that needs to be checked. And before I get castigated, yes I know that some symptoms come and go but if you're having a good day shouldn't you leave the disabled bay empty for someone more deserving?

Some more disability stats
You need to stop trying to be a doctor.

For example I used to have days where I would walk to the GP and back, my journey would start out with me walking normally down the road, maybe 2, maybe 3 roads, the more the better. Usually I would be having problems before I get there and the last bit of walking I would be resorted to one step at a time, holding onto fences walls etc. The walk back would be much more diffilcult.

In regards to the NHS they are pretty aweful, I think its area dependent and a lot dependent how good your GP is and especially how sympathetic your GP is.

In all my health problems I have been very pro active in seeking medical help, often going to the GP/hospital in huge amounts of pain but it had to be done if I wanted treatment, I have also resorted to going to a&e numerous times as well.

The general problems I have come across are these.

1 - GPs refuse to do home visits, my GPs all seem to have age discrimination and a flat policy that if you under 65 you dont get a home visit.
2 - A tendency to overbook patients and then have them waiting in waiting rooms, this is a bigger issue than you may think, if you ill, in pain and its hard for you to get out, its a BIG problem to have to wait in a waiting room for an hour or more to see someone, much better to wait at home and then go there and see someone straight away. If they cant see me until 4pm then the appointment should be 4pm not 3pm and waiting an hour. Also the risk of catching things like viruses increases if you sitting in waiting rooms, for people who are already ill that can be quite critical.
3 - GPs refusing to reffer me for things like scans, x-rays etc. I have had to shout at my GP numerous times to get reffered, as they seem to just want to rescribe some painkillers and anti biotics and be done with it, I think again age discrimination comes into this and there seems to be a lazy attitude that if you not old then you cant get certian illnesses. Maybe they think I am putting my problems on I dont know. To give you an idea of a current problem, my entire lower leg is hard, red, with some infections, bloated, and now my feet have bloated up. My GP said I just have a dry skin issue. Yet this problem only kicks off in the cold (like when it snows) and has all the hallmarks of a blood circulation problem, in addition I did a self diabetes test which was positive, but they refuse to look into it. My GP is hard as rock and has no sympathy at all. I had a hospital specialist tell my GP to refer me to a dermatologist and the GP has refused to do it. Then the GP discharged me from the hospital by himself as he got sick of the specialist arguing with him which I am currently considering legal action over (happened 2 weeks ago).
4 - when at the hospital doctors are usually more sympathetic but I still think there is a degree of lazyness, because they are simply overwhlemed with patients. my eye infection which I am now in year 3, they have never done a scan of my eye to check for objects behind my eye, yet my sister under a different health authority had a eye scan when she had a suspected stroke. This eye infection under normal circumstances would stop me working, I have no doubt at all. It causes me aggro at random points of the day and is unpredictable. So I would never be able to work reliably for 8 hours a day with the problem. The saving grace is I work for myself so I can work round it.

I did have one very good GP some years back, he was a temporary GP after mine had retired and he was very good, I got reffered for numerous MRI scans, physiotherapy, whenever there was delays he pushed the hospital to speed them up and he supported me on a welfare claim. He was a brilliant doctor, he even rang me up to tell me about a blood test result. Unfortenatly it seems out of about 10 different GPs he is a one off.


The NHS is not all its cracked up to be, my personal experience leads me to think its a great emergency service but substandard for non life threatening long term conditions.
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