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Originally Posted by Mick
I have not argued. I have simple asked you to show what gives you the impression he has not read it, I don't want to see spoken opinons, this is not evidence. He may not have read it, quite frankly, I couldn't give a toss if he has or hasn't, it is still in no way me saying he read something when I ask for you to show me what gives you the impression he has not read it.
When Police ask to see evidence if you accuse someone of doing something to you, this is not them saying they don't agree with you, this is them asking you to back up your statement, this is what I am asking, it's not me saying show me evidence because I believe he read it, I don't know he read it and as I said above, I really couldn't give one iota if he did or did not, I just know it was not a actually his bill.
Have you? Where ? You really do have this issue of what you consider to be evidence when it is only an opinion, a spoken opinion is not evidence.
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This is an example of argument, not discussion:
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Originally Posted by Mick
Care to show evidence of him not reading it, or is this more of your negative agenda working overtime ?   |
"Care to show..." is a leading and inflammatory statement. Debates and discussions focus on the debate and the supporting evidence not on trying to rile the person you're discussing the matter with.
Adding a put-down to the poster "or is this more of your negative agenda working overtime?" is what people do in arguments, not discussions. It is irrelevant to the debate.
In terms of evidence, this is a discussion forum and not a police station. There are various types of evidence and some are relevant to a crime scene and others to political debates such as this one. We're not trying to get a burglary conviction, as that requires a higher burden of proof. I've provided what I know, as has Maggie. Trump did seem to be unaware that the bill contradicted his election promises until his opponents pointed this out to him.
The alternative was that Trump read the bill from end to end and was happy to forgot his election commitments to protect entitlements including Medicaid. Trump's opponents might think that but I don't.
What do you think is more likely?