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Old 30-06-2017, 05:22   #155
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
But that isn't an argument against public sector pay rises, it's an argument for better pay at the bottom of the private sector. The wage stagnation was part of the reason the Tories suffered at the election but it's harder for government to directly address.

I am all for addressing that issue as well but it isn't going to solved by restricting the pay of nurses, teachers and other public sector workers. They've had the freeze since 2012, the least they could expect is to be kept up with inflation.
Whichever party one supports there were clear messages from the general election result and one either heeds those messages or faces inevitable electoral defeat and the Conservatives if they are to survive for the full life of parliament would be wise to listen to those messages because if they just close their eyes and keep going on the same path then they will be lucky if they last 2 years let alone the full term IMO

Yes Corbyn is a poor Labour leader but compared to Theresa May the perception of him and some of the messages we saw at the last general election and the vote by the public saw a increased vote for him so it would be folly to assume that just because its Corbyn he won't get to 10 Downing Street as it was folly by the Conservatives and the Conservative media to assume and propagate that clear daily message during the general election campaign which clearly as we all know backfired totally and was no doubt in many peoples minds the worst Conservative election campaign in history and many of the Conservative media were made to look stupid as their personal characterisation assault on him like the Conservative party backfired dismally.

Not being a very wise man myself one listens and learns and if one does not take that those lessons on board then the end result is inevitable...
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