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Old 11-05-2012, 09:25   #8
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Re: BT's superfast broadband network 'risks being empty'

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan View Post
Don't forget that a huge lump of that was a grant from the government.
Zero of that is a grant from the government, any BDUK funds are in addition to the £2.5bn and are to plug gaps in the coverage above the 66% of population BT are planning to fund with the £2.5bn.

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Originally Posted by deathtrap3000 View Post
I guess so. Dont forget BT have a lot of aluminium still in their network as well which when used with the FTTC can have quite an effect on the speeds.
Not so much, the issue was really joints between copper and aluminium. There will be a single copper-aluminium joint due to the tie pair between MSAN and PCP but it won't be as lethal as it was for standard DSL.

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan View Post
VM also got a grant that they are using to upgrade their network. However they should be using it to sort out reliability problems on their aging network (especially replacing all the aluminium cables that some idiot decided to use years ago). Otherwise they will just end up losing more and more customers to BT's brand new (and probably far more reliable) service.
Virgin Media aren't using a government grant to fund the >£100mln network upgrade. It's coming out of their own pockets.

Virgin have always, in common with every other cable company, used copper coated coax cores, not solid copper, and the land lines aren't an issue as they only need to carry telco, not broadband.

So far the BDUK funding and local grants have gone to BT and a couple of smaller operators and been used for bespoke local FTTC/P networks, wireless, and enabling Openreach cabinets previously considered unviable and not a part of the original £2.5bln spend.

The only involvement I've seen Virgin have is in their commitment to use the Fujitsu FTTP network which has seen bids for BDUK funding.
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