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Old 09-03-2017, 12:48   #463
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Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by passingbat View Post
You can not prove that. I can not prove the opposite. But you can prove that leaving the Federal States of Europe gives Britain control of Laws, Taxes and Immigration; i.e. Sovereignty.

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The EU have an agenda; The Federal States of Europe. Nothing will sway them away from that agenda. Failing to understand that, is a mistake in my view.
The usual suspects here know that full well, they just don't like admitting it because doing so destroys their argument that the UK can reform the EU from the inside*. There is no negotiation possible on the EU's raison d'etre and they've confirmed it categorically many times.


* Just look how far we've managed to reform it in the decades we've been members lol.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing View Post
Brexit has caused quite a few other member states of the EU to consider the degree to which their citizens are supporting the EU or being dragged along by politicians looking out for themselves. We were the first but we will not be the last and it will be interesting to see how france and germany will fare once they have to make up the shortfall. It is simply stupid to suggest it's all downhill from here for the UK and the worlds largest trading bloc was giving us less and less as time went on so stepping out is not necessarily a bad thing. I personally have more faith in the UK and it's people then some clearly have and believe we will make a success out of getting out of the EU.

It's funny in a way that the doom and gloom approach of the remain campaign backfired so badly and yet the supposedly more educated people continue to use a failed tactic rather then come up with something better.
Maybe they're not as clever as they think eh?

They're all too ready to predict nothing but gloom and doom ahead for the UK outside of the EU but have nothing to say about all the huge known risks and problems evident within the EU. I can't think why...

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