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Old 08-10-2023, 23:13   #39
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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
Corbyn is horrific, yes. There’s an entire essay to be written on exactly what he means by ‘occupation’ - there are plenty on the British far left who use that word to describe Israel’s very existence, on the basis that the Israeli state is illegitimate and therefore all ‘Israelis’ are occupiers. Assuming he doesn’t think this way would be being …. generous.

Telling also that his preference is for equivocation like ‘immediate cease fire’ rather than specifically calling on his friends in Hamas to stop the very specifically war-crimey things they’re doing, release civilian hostages and return to Gaza.

An immediate cease fire does rather imply that Hamas gets to continue to occupy those Israeli settlements it has captured and to hold on to the people it has kidnapped. I wonder what reasons he might offer the Israeli government for not immediately retaking its sovereign territory by force and attempting to rescue its citizens.
Sounds like you are grasping at straws to insert your own fanciful prejudice to give meaning to Corbyn’s words that isn’t actually there.

Considering everyone predicts the current trajectory to be more war and more bloodshed he’s clearly right that the status quo is not sustainable.

Pierre and yourself have quite eloquently outlined the alternative - essentially a genocide.
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