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Old 21-02-2012, 16:03   #36
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Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 3.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr View Post
Technically yes that's right.

It's a fuzzy bit of copyright law that allows PVRs to exist in the first place. Specifically http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/copy/c-o...-timeshift.htm

The second paragraph is important when you are talking about streaming:

Obviously there is no real benefit for individuals to be investigated for not deleting/wiping a recording they've made, but the Copyright holders will likely be very keen to make the distinction between the 'timeshift' exception and multi-room streaming which I think they class as something else
But this ruling is presumably very relevant, where people are complaining that Tivo does not have a 'backup to DVD/VCR' in the same way that the V+ has. Strictly speaking, by providing this facility on the V+, VM are/were allowing or encouraging customers to break the law by making permanent copies of their PVR recordings.

My impression is that content owners have been relatively easy about this sort of facility, which has been around for many years, because you are only recording an analogue version of the content (transmitted via SCART) re-digitized by your DVD recorder. The same tolerance would presumably not be applied to direct re-recording of any digital content via ethernet or HDMI, and certainly not to HD content.
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