Thread: Crisis in the NHS
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Old 08-06-2017, 13:50   #252
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
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Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
Yes, seems to have worked over the last 7 years. Targets increasingly being missed everywhere, cancer survival rates the worst in western Europe and a recruitment crisis for nurses and doctors. If anybody thinks the NHS will exist after another 5 years they are deluded. Vote Tory by all means but if you and your family really need the NHS in future you'll only have yourself to blame when it fails to deliver.
So, how would electing Labour help? They were going to put in less money than the Conservatives have done!

The comparisons lefties make between how the two parties approach the NHS is completely delusional. It is the CONSERVATIVES who are pumping more money in while trying to bring efficiency and modernisation to the NHS, it was LABOUR who were responsible for most of the privatisation that has taken place in the NHS through the PFI initiatives and it was LABOUR who presided over the drinking out of vases by patients not being looked after properly at Mid Staffordshire Hospital, and actually tried to cover it up rather than address it.

You'd think it was the other way around to hear some of them spout forth in the election campaign.

If Corbyn is promising more money for the NHS now, he's got to get the money first, and we will not see any efficiencies introduced. If that happens, the NHS will surely crumble before our eyes because he will simply run out of money. His economic plan wouldn't even make sense in a Jack and Jill book.

Corbyn has proved himself to be a brilliant illusionist, but it really is all smoke and mirrors, folks!

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Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
Not really, no.

It's worse in this country under this Govt. e.g. 6,700 mental health staff have been culled since the Tories came to power in 2010. The Govts. refusal to safeguard EU citizens also means EU staff are leaving in droves.
No, they haven't been culled or sacked, but it is true that posts have been cut to make the books balance. Presumably, you do remember the banking crisis over which Labour presided. The words 'chickens' and 'roost' come to mind.

As for EU citizens, the Government has already suggested that EU citizens over here and UK citizens in the EU are protected but the EU have refused to play ball on that one.

I'm afraid that Corbyn's way would succeed in protecting EU citizens over here, but would fail to address UK citizens over there! What kind of deal is that? The Conservatives aim to protect all 4,000 whereas Corbyn seems to think that protecting only 3,000 is a good deal!

Heaven help us all if he is elected to negotiate with these EU nasties.
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