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Old 06-04-2017, 13:39   #1093
Gavin78
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
They do need training as Staff Nurses are now doing jobs that Drs used to do. However getting rid of bursaries and making them take out loans, along with pay which is poor compared to other graduates is ludicrous. No wonder courses are empty. In the meantime we need immigration because we haven't trained, incentivised and given enough respect to a taken for granted profession.
I'll tell you the problem as well, Students do placements as you may well know. but they often send them to specialist wards like mine which is Renal all they can do is stand and watch other than bringing the patient in a wheel chair, getting them on the bed and taking blood pressures.

They cant do much else other than watch and learn what we tell them but it's at least 6 -12 months before perm staff become competent enough in the job so when the students leave the ward which could be anything from a 1 day to 3 week placement they often give us bad feed back because they can't do anything.

Also drug calculations have changed and nurses are doing a lot more. our unit is nurse-led we don't have any doctors but care for 70 patients a day over a 7 day period which is why they have started introducing degree level because as you say they do a lot more now some jobs are what DR's used to do that are now nurses jobs
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