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telfordcable 12-03-2012 17:08

Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
I cannot understand why is Virgin Media upgrade to 60 Meg from 30 Meg in the next 18 months is too long while BT had confirmed that all UK who had FTTC 40 Meg Down /10 Meg Up will be upgrade to 80 Meg Down / 20 Meg Up in early April with a nationwide instant (no area by area roll out)

Virgin Media took too long 18 months area by area roll out is a joke!
Virgin Media 30 Meg down upgrade to 60 Meg down is a joke!
Virgin Media 3 Meg up (upgrade) to 6 Meg up is a joke!

Only BT FTTC 80 Meg down and 20 Meg up in Early April will beat Virgin Media 60 Meg down and 6 Meg up. Virgin Media should have 80 Meg down and 20 Meg up to match BT.

If BT FTTC available in my area, I will say goodbye to Virgin Media because upgrade to double speed in the next 18 months is far too long to wait, and upload should have done better!

carlwaring 12-03-2012 17:25

Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
You go for it, TC! I love a good rant :D

Personally, I'll wait for my FREE (annual price rise excepted) double-speed upgrade, thanks.

Ignitionnet 12-03-2012 17:25

Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35398036)
I cannot understand why is Virgin Media upgrade to 60 Meg from 30 Meg in the next 18 months is too long while BT had confirmed that all UK who had FTTC 40 Meg Down /10 Meg Up will be upgrade to 80 Meg Down / 20 Meg Up in early April with a nationwide instant (no area by area roll out)

They've confirmed no such thing which makes the rest of your post rather superfluous.

Hugh 12-03-2012 17:25

Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
"rest of the post"????

Stephen 12-03-2012 17:31

Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
Well as VM is giving all 50Mb customer 100Mb for free and then all 100Mb customers 120Mb again for FREE then your post is really pointless as per usual.

That of course beats the BT FTTC speeds by miles!

telfordcable 12-03-2012 17:56

Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
are 120Mb download will get 20 Meg Upload ? I had cancel my 100 Meg as the speed was rubbish every days at peak time down to 57 Meg, waste of money, I revert back to 30 Meg.

craigj2k12 12-03-2012 18:04

Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
telford cable returns :D :D :D

another 60 page thread :D

qasdfdsaq 12-03-2012 19:05

Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
Yeah, I was going to say, welcome back telfordcable.

Last I head BT's line was trial period of "up to 6 months" from February but some sources have claimed they are aiming for an April launch:

http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/21588...e-80mbit-april

Phil-ntl 12-03-2012 19:14

Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
Here we go again........https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/04/4.gif

Jumping 12-03-2012 19:14

Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
The Infinity network (FTTC) is newly built and designed to be able to get upgraded and future proof so its easy for BT to squeeze more out of it without having to do any physical work.

If you have the option to get Infinity and want it then by all means why not go for it, where I live there is no plans by BT to do any roll out so im staying with Virgin.

Forgot to say its better to vote with your feet than just moaning for no reason...imho

Andrewcrawford23 12-03-2012 19:14

Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35398036)
I cannot understand why is Virgin Media upgrade to 60 Meg from 30 Meg in the next 18 months is too long while BT had confirmed that all UK who had FTTC 40 Meg Down /10 Meg Up will be upgrade to 80 Meg Down / 20 Meg Up in early April with a nationwide instant (no area by area roll out)

Virgin Media took too long 18 months area by area roll out is a joke!
Virgin Media 30 Meg down upgrade to 60 Meg down is a joke!
Virgin Media 3 Meg up (upgrade) to 6 Meg up is a joke!

Only BT FTTC 80 Meg down and 20 Meg up in Early April will beat Virgin Media 60 Meg down and 6 Meg up. Virgin Media should have 80 Meg down and 20 Meg up to match BT.

If BT FTTC available in my area, I will say goodbye to Virgin Media because upgrade to double speed in the next 18 months is far too long to wait, and upload should have done better!


buh bye then go to bt dnt come back to moan as your moans aint constructive man just general rants get yourself a blog

qasdfdsaq 12-03-2012 19:29

Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35398046)
Well as VM is giving all 50Mb customer 100Mb for free and then all 100Mb customers 120Mb again for FREE then your post is really pointless as per usual.

That of course beats the BT FTTC speeds by miles!

Except that

a) VM are increasing their prices
b) BT are giving 20mb customers (avg. speed 6mb) users up to 80mb (avg speed probably >60mb) for free, a much bigger increase.
c) VM's upload speeds still pale in comparison - remember some areas are stuck on 1.75mb or 5mb upload, even with >100mb download
d) VM's upgrades won't be finishing for a year and a half
e) VM are 3 upgrade cycles behind in some areas (10:1 upload not complete, 100mb rollout not complete, double speed not even started)
f) After the next - imminent - set of upgrades finish, VM will be charging £25 for 50/5* or 100/5 (*not necessarily 50/5 all the time) while BT are expected to be charging £25 for 80/20

* Unless you use it too much, then 50/1.75 or if you use it way too much, 0/0.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35398087)
buh bye then go to bt dnt come back to moan as your moans aint constructive man just general rants get yourself a blog

Telford is due to get FTTC on 01/06/2012, so only a few months to tolerate this guy.

Sirius 12-03-2012 19:47

Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35398044)
"rest of the post"????

Thanks for not quoting his post It means i dont get to see his post :clap:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35398089)
Telford is due to get FTTC on 01/06/2012, so only a few months to tolerate this guy.

It will not stop him posting bull excreta


:LOL: i have just realised there are 2 in this thread whose posts i don't see.

---------- Post added at 18:47 ---------- Previous post was at 18:45 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35398046)
Well as VM is giving all 50Mb customer 100Mb for free and then all 100Mb customers 120Mb again for FREE then your post is really pointless as per usual.

That of course beats the BT FTTC speeds by miles!

:clap:

carlwaring 12-03-2012 19:49

Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35398089)
Except that

a) VM are increasing their prices

Which they do every year, so it's not really relevant.

Quote:

b) BT are giving 20mb customers (avg. speed 6mb)...
Last time I checked, just under 70% of cable users get the speed they're paying for. For ADSL, that figure was <50%. Has that changed recently?

Quote:

...users up to 80mb (avg speed probably >60mb) for free, a much bigger increase.
Not yet, apparently.

Quote:

c) VM's upload speeds still pale in comparison
For most people, I think upload speed isn't an issue.

Quote:

d) VM's upgrades won't be finishing for a year and a half
Assuming they don't finish ahead of schedule. Which, if recent news is any indication, they may well finish sooner.

Quote:

f) After the next - imminent - set of upgrades finish, VM will be charging £25 for 50/5...
Base price. Not including discounts/mates rates/etc.

Quote:

while BT are expected to be charging £25 for 80/20
Well we all know that most current ADSL users don't get anywhere near their headline speed at any time. Any information on how close to headline speed their Infinity product is for the average customer?

Andrewcrawford23 12-03-2012 20:01

Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35398099)
edited


i see ou are still pro virign carl and you dnt work for them lol

see i would perosnal take you comments more seriously if you was not so dismisse and making viring sound good, most peopel do want more upload an not jst the torrent seeder, ideo calls, online storage and plenty of other reasons peopel want mroe uplaod bandwidth but ia int goign to question some of your other poitns as i can tbe bothered i still remebr what you ar eliek for pro virign form teh past, but some points i wouldnt dispute as you are correct in what oyu say


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