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Arthurgray50@blu 14-03-2012 11:35

Unemployment is rising
 
Again today announced on tv news, The amount of unemployed has risen again, and youth's out of work has risen also.

When is this government going to learn that more and more people are going to lose there jobs, due to the financial problems of this country, the cuts that is being made is causing this problem.

Also the CCCS has stated that due to the clampdown of stagnant wages, more and more people are getting into debt problems, as they can no longer afford to pay there debts due to wages freezes, everything is going up BUT wages.

And its no good saying 'oh look at the problems caused by the previous government' The present government made drastic cutbacks as soon as they got into power.

LexDiamond 14-03-2012 11:39

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The government have to make cuts due to the stupidity of Gordon Brown.

Not making cuts is no longer an option.

Gary L 14-03-2012 11:41

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Maybe the olympics will cheer everybody up a bit.

I think Mr Cameron will come up with a really good idea to cheer everyone up a bit sooner than that though.

Alan Fry 14-03-2012 12:14

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Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35399062)
The government have to make cuts due to the stupidity of Gordon Brown.

Not making cuts is no longer an option.

Why should we make cuts when the rich and major businesses caused this crisis and they evade 10s of billion worth of tax each year?

mertle 14-03-2012 13:05

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Looking at the tracker cant understand how the government claim slowing feb 11 compared to feb 12 its worse in feb 12. Its the best way comparing as you then eliminate seasonal changes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10604117


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Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35399062)
The government have to make cuts due to the stupidity of Gordon Brown.

Not making cuts is no longer an option.

there another thought though austerity aimed at the wrong section of the country. That less money in peoples pockets on household combined wages less 42,000 as example will stagnate the economy send it very quickly into recession.

Without people spending less tax is generated we actually harm the aim to take on the debt.

People who struggling badly will then send us into another credit crunch you can only tighten belts so far. Once you money dont fund your core living standards then loans sought to keep going hense news CCCS.

The debt is basically being shoved onto individuals not the government ala redistribution but this got us credit crunch not long back. They want businesse to get a loan we just seen what happens with premier foods is into its eyeballs with 1bn cant pay it.

Quantive easing will cause more issues too and sadly trying to keep interest at 0.5% is another issue.

There is idea banks would hate it

Unemployment issue massive burden we should do more to create jobs. The banks should offer interest free loans to small/medium businesses for job creation with very favourable monthly repayments that business can afford. That way we would see job market pick up. It would create tax four the country better more people able to spend. We also with the safety net raise minimum wage encourage businesses raise wages.

Squeezing wages is not the answer to the problems it just slitting the throat of the country.

Public sector needs streamling how it spends thats reduction of top earners pay. You only got look the councils see top earners around 150k which in this climate criminal. The way they waist paying for goods tied to shocking contracts for supplies. I know they paid way over odds for computer equipement £6,000 a piece. That was neede to be sorted out. A leaner more efficient public sector then could possibly kept many services and frontline jobs. Those then would not been unemployed.

Its how they tackled the problem its been completely about faced.

Make the banks pay better structured public sector chase the cheats defrauders of tax changed tax rules to close loopholes. Kept people in work encourage private sector employ workers.

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35399063)
Maybe the olympics will cheer everybody up a bit.

I think Mr Cameron will come up with a really good idea to cheer everyone up a bit sooner than that though.

sadly fearing the oposite when the bill comes in to collect it will be one big bombshell waiting to hurt us more.

Supose bonus we will see some employment surge while its on can this event make a profit for the country in terms what its going to cost. I am wishing we could call IOC ask them to take it away as the country cant afford it.

Estimates you will rake in around $135-$335m in revenue considering the outlay of billions it wont make a profit. The more our spending blooms all the rubbish being spoken on budget its already gone beyond 2 estimates.

That money could been re-invested to help cussion the country unemployed. Just wish france would won it how bad did greek olympics took them into bad debt.

Sirius 14-03-2012 13:49

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35399073)
Why should we make cuts when the rich and major businesses caused this crisis and they evade 10s of billion worth of tax each year?

Don't ruin this thread as well Alan.

I agree that the stupid decisions made by the previous Government are now coming back to bite us well and truly on the arse

Alan Fry 14-03-2012 14:29

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35399126)
Don't ruin this thread as well Alan.

I agree that the stupid decisions made by the previous Government are now coming back to bite us well and truly on the arse

Well it looks like this government will also be making stupid decisions as well and we are the people who will suffer becuase of it

LexDiamond 14-03-2012 14:43

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35399073)
Why should we make cuts when the rich and major businesses caused this crisis and they evade 10s of billion worth of tax each year?

I think you will find that poor people borrowing money that they can't afford to pay back is what caused the current crisis in the economy.

Alan Fry 14-03-2012 14:49

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Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35399159)
I think you will find that poor people borrowing money is what caused the current crisis in the economy.

It was not helped with all the risky financial trading that the rich and major businesses did, along with the free make system that make the rich better off and the rest of us worse off

LexDiamond 14-03-2012 15:02

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35399162)
It was not helped with all the risky financial trading that the rich and major businesses did, along with the free make system that make the rich better off and the rest of us worse off

Let's not get the issue confused here. The credit crunch happened specifically because of defaults on sub prime loans. People borrowed what they could not afford and then defaulted. Therefore your assertion is wrong.

Alan Fry 14-03-2012 15:10

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Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35399174)
Let's not get the issue confused here. The credit crunch happened specifically because of defaults on sub prime loans. People borrowed what they could not afford and then defaulted. Therefore your assertion is wrong.

You cannot deny that thing were made much worse by the fact the rich and major businesses let money to those types of people and then did risky financial trades with them. The economic system set up by the rich made things worse as well

Gary L 14-03-2012 15:11

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Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35399089)
sadly fearing the oposite when the bill comes in to collect it will be one big bombshell waiting to hurt us more.

It will be one big bombshell if there's any terrorist involvement with the olympics.

Alan Fry 14-03-2012 15:13

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35399180)
It will be one big bombshell if there's any terrorist involvement with the olympics.

Surly not with the huge security at the games?

Then again anything could happen...

Gary L 14-03-2012 15:16

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35399183)
Surly not with the huge security at the games?

Then again anything could happen...

If they want to do it then they will. it's an opportunity they won't want to miss. especially as it's being held in the UK. and London of all places.

anyway, that's another topic really.

MovedGoalPosts 14-03-2012 15:19

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Not sure what terrorism has to do with this thread :notopic:


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