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Courtesy of the New Statesman:

http://www.newstatesman.com/sites/de...?itok=jsBUfRlU

:D

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...ng-kim-jong-il

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Blimey ol Alex has had a make over.

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Out of order comparing people to Nazis. Luckily, Salmond would never stoop so low.... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-official.html

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Now Barack Obama is bullying Alex Salmond.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-27713327

Pretty obvious how he wants to see it turn out.

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Setting aside endorsements from the Droneranger™ it looks as though Lego™ are bullying the better together crowd.

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We all wish it was all over and done with as Salmon is a dangerous man and would try any dirty tricks to be a winner in the campaign, Thank The Lord most people are beginning to see sense and voting No. Just hope the undecided see through him

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

In a more that will infuriate at least one member on here Andy Murray has hit out at Alec Salmond after his saltire stunt at Wimbledon last year.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...ard-2014_06_07

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The state of the media and their tricks to influence voters has got ridiculous

http://s8.postimg.org/pqgynmh5h/20140608_144348.jpg

As far as im concerned it's up to the scottish what they choose and I wish them the best of luck either way but seeing things like that in paper makes me want everyone to vote for a split, just to say :upyours: to the newspaper.

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The story is a report of comments by Sir Paul Nurse, who is President of the Royal Society. His words have been reported in several national newspapers today. This has nothing to do with the Daily Express.

Given the man's expertise in the whole area of scientific research and funding, I think it's worth reflecting on what he has actually said rather than getting uppity about it.

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And again the UK / ROI cross border collaboration is cited as a current working and successful model.

"The pro-independence group, Academics for Yes, pointed to collaborations across the Irish border.

"Several bilateral arrangements exist between the UK and the Republic of Ireland," a spokesman said.

"These include joint funding arrangements between the UK Arts and Humanities Research Council and the Irish Research Council for Humanities and Social Sciences, the merging of the postgraduate research councils of the Republic and Northern Ireland, and an agreement giving the universities of Ulster and Queen's University Belfast access to the Republic's scientific research funding scheme.

"Why would an independent Scotland be treated differently?""


From here.

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I think a lot of people wilfully ignore the somewhat difficult circumstances in which the Irish Republic was founded, the partition of the island and the many cross-border institutions and arrangements, both formal and informal, which exist.

To repeat the obvious, this referendum campaign is not an argument over whether it is possible for Scotland to be independent. It is an argument over whether it is desirable.

And in the realm of scientific research, as with so many others, the nationalist case seems to be to tear up arrangements that just work because they exist within the context of a unified nation state, and replace them with cross-border agreements between sovereign states. With all the goodwill in the world, agreements between separate, sovereign governments are never going to be as easy to set up and operate as those that are made in a domestic context.

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I think we get that.

However, we are where we are as far as the UK and ROI are concerned and, irrespective of the "difficult circumstances", the cross border institutions work and as such it is a perfectly bonafide comparator.

It is obvious that independence can work. From what I've seen it is the "NO" campaign which appears to consistently paint a picture of doom.

What the nationalists might deem to do post referendum is anyones guess but, as has been stated before, it will be a negotiated basis from which to begin.

That was always the deal.

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The name of the principal no campaign organisation is the big giveaway here. It is, Better Together. I know you know that already. ;)

The No campaign's message is to get people to vote for the negative. That puts them at an immediate disadvantage, for anyone looking for someone to point a finger at and accuse of doom-mongering.

But the truth - as I see it, and, I believe, as the comfortable majority of Scots voters see it - is that while independence can work, iScotland would not be a more prosperous place, an easier place to live or work in, and a great deal of time and money would have to be spent re-forging a lot of things that at present a lot of people take for granted, such as the cancer research funding arrangements under discussion today.

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Yes, quite, but that is only if they wish to maintain the status quo.

Independence - if that is the outcome of the wishes of the democratic majority - will require change and self governance.

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You don't think newspapers are putting the story as a full front page story due to how they want to the Scottish public to vote?