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OLD BOY 27-11-2017 16:22

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35926598)
l posted a clear link not that long ago but alas as usual you chose to ignore its clear evidence about the future UK football rights market..

I don't ignore posts, Den, but I must have missed that one!

Paul 27-11-2017 16:22

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Knock it off you two, this isnt the playground.

theone2k10 27-11-2017 18:20

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We've gone on about Amazon bidding for football but Facebook might want a slice of the pie too, a old link yes but still interesting https://www.theguardian.com/football...g-live-matches

Also possible confirmation that both Amazon and Facebook will bid for premiership rights http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...-a7960721.html

OLD BOY 28-11-2017 07:39

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The source of these articles remains Ed Woodward, and it would be good to find another source to confirm that what he is thinking is correct. Obviously, Amazon and Facebook won't be going public with their intentions, but interesting that they continue not to deny it.

YouTube is another possible contender for the rights, with Google and Twitter being less likely to bid, in my view.

muppetman11 28-11-2017 12:39

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Why have they not gone for any bigger rights in their home country ?

denphone 28-11-2017 13:05

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35926685)
Why have they not gone for any bigger rights in their home country ?

l think the answer to that is perfectly clear as to why nothing will come from the baseless media speculation over here on this side of the pond MM.

OLD BOY 28-11-2017 13:18

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35926685)
Why have they not gone for any bigger rights in their home country ?

Because most of them are tied up with existing rights, I suppose. Amazon have only recently ventured into the arena of streamed sports, so the big question is what will they go for as those rights expire.

Here is a neat analysis of whether Amazon might go for the premiership bidding.

https://www.ibc.org/delivery/analysi...-/2434.article

buckeye 28-11-2017 20:18

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35926688)
Because most of them are tied up with existing rights, I suppose. Amazon have only recently ventured into the arena of streamed sports, so the big question is what will they go for as those rights expire.

Here is a neat analysis of whether Amazon might go for the premiership bidding.

https://www.ibc.org/delivery/analysi...-/2434.article

An interesting article, although I disagree on one point it raises,
Amazon or any other potential new bidder would not have to set up a full production operation, they could do what the likes of NBC and many overseas broadcasters do and take the Premier League feed and commentary.
I doubt if most fans would care if the get the Premier League feed (I find it better than Sky or BT's offerings) of a full on production.

theone2k10 28-11-2017 20:51

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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35926744)
An interesting article, although I disagree on one point it raises,
Amazon or any other potential new bidder would not have to set up a full production operation, they could do what the likes of NBC and many overseas broadcasters do and take the Premier League feed and commentary.
I doubt if most fans would care if the get the Premier League feed (I find it better than Sky or BT's offerings) of a full on production.

Agree with this also love how on FOXsports and NBCsports you can get the full atmosphere by selecting one of the bonus streams with no commentary or even a fixed camera stream so you see it from a fans point of view.

OLD BOY 29-11-2017 09:48

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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35926744)
An interesting article, although I disagree on one point it raises,
Amazon or any other potential new bidder would not have to set up a full production operation, they could do what the likes of NBC and many overseas broadcasters do and take the Premier League feed and commentary.
I doubt if most fans would care if the get the Premier League feed (I find it better than Sky or BT's offerings) of a full on production.

Well, that's what I thought, too, but I'm glad you said it! People always seem to want to complicate things!

buckeye 29-11-2017 15:42

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35926752)
Agree with this also love how on FOXsports and NBCsports you can get the full atmosphere by selecting one of the bonus streams with no commentary or even a fixed camera stream so you see it from a fans point of view.

On another US sports service I also like ESPN's multicast feature, if you want two or more games on at a time it looks very handy.
I personally have one game on my main TV and another on with the sound down on my Microsoft Surface in the background, but if I didn't have this option I'd make use of multicast quite frequently.

When you use US streaming services it makes you realise how inept our offerings are!

theone2k10 29-11-2017 15:46

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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35926841)
On another US sports service I also like ESPN's multicast feature, if you want two or more games on at a time it looks very handy.
I personally have one game on my main TV and another on with the sound down on my Microsoft Surface in the background, but if I didn't have this option I'd make use of multicast quite frequently.

When you use US streaming services it makes you realise how inept our offerings are!

Yes absolutely i forgot about ESPN and yet i watch the EFL on it lol, i do the same have the main match i wish to watch on my big tv and another match on my windows tablet.

buckeye 29-11-2017 17:41

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35926842)
i do the same have the main match i wish to watch on my big tv and another match on my windows tablet.

This can be very handy at times, the weekend before last I had some friends round for a Chelsea game that wasn't on British TV,
one who is a rugby fan too and was a little ungrateful complained he was missing the England-Australia game, I plonked my Surface in front of him showing that game via Now TV and as he's also quite IT illiterate he was amazed he could watch both at once.
Last Saturday it proved useful again, I got in from work and put the Liverpool-Chelsea game on via BT Sports on my TV and had my second sporting love The Ohio State Buckeyes big game of the season playing on the Surface :) (As college football takes so damn long to complete I actually managed to watch the whole second half on the TV after the Liverpool-Chelsea game ended lol).

P.S. don't hate me for being born into a Chelsea supporting family, trust me we've seen more bad times than good times!

P.P.S. Let me publicly thank theone2k10 for some information he PM'd me several months ago, this has been invaluable to keep my services running, since Windows updated itself and for reasons probably only known to Bill Gates my virtual router stopped working, but a part of the info supplied has let me continue using the US services my very good friend across the pond has shared with me.

theone2k10 29-11-2017 19:16

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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35926855)
This can be very handy at times, the weekend before last I had some friends round for a Chelsea game that wasn't on British TV,
one who is a rugby fan too and was a little ungrateful complained he was missing the England-Australia game, I plonked my Surface in front of him showing that game via Now TV and as he's also quite IT illiterate he was amazed he could watch both at once.
Last Saturday it proved useful again, I got in from work and put the Liverpool-Chelsea game on via BT Sports on my TV and had my second sporting love The Ohio State Buckeyes big game of the season playing on the Surface :) (As college football takes so damn long to complete I actually managed to watch the whole second half on the TV after the Liverpool-Chelsea game ended lol).

P.S. don't hate me for being born into a Chelsea supporting family, trust me we've seen more bad times than good times!

P.P.S. Let me publicly thank theone2k10 for some information he PM'd me several months ago, this has been invaluable to keep my services running, since Windows updated itself and for reasons probably only known to Bill Gates my virtual router stopped working, but a part of the info supplied has let me continue using the US services my very good friend across the pond has shared with me.

I know very well about more bad times than good times being a Wolves fan.

You are most welcome, glad i could help :)

OLD BOY 30-11-2017 10:46

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Although this sounds exciting, I wonder if, in reality, this is a last ditch attempt to save broadcast linear TV? If so, it looks to me as if the broadcasters are going all out to preserve the existing balance for as long as possible.

Of course, the BBC, with their more successful i-Player and no need to rely on advertising, are not involved with this and no doubt will be concentrating on developing their player into a Netflix-like service and launching UHD.

http://advanced-television.com/2017/...g-tv-festival/

http://advanced-television.com/2017/...tmas-box-sets/


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