Injuries reported after lorry crash in Glasgow
 

A bin lorry has crashed on George Square near the Millennium Hotel with unconfirmed reports of injuries.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-30580114

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It's a bad one. :(

Tragic anytime but especially at this time of year.

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Reports of fatalities and there is a possibility that the driver has suffered a heart attack. So sad for all involved.

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Sky News says up to six people dead.

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Judging from the photos the bin lorry has lost control at Royal exchange Sq and gone up Queen St before hitting the wall at the Millenium hotel.

That whole area is mobbed this time of year.

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That's terrible news.:(

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Yes truly awful for all concerned. Let's hope the injured pull through.

I recall reading about a couple who'd gone to New York on holiday and had been mown down and killed by a garbage truck. What made matters even worse in that case was the fact that the driver had not been taking his epilepsy medication. He was done for second degree murder and got a 20 year sentence.

http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/I...ail/story.html

Thankfully there's nothing to indicate that the driver in this case didn't also tragically succumb to an event beyond his control.

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Horrific scenes,

Remind me never to go to Glasgow around Christmas, Helicopters, bin wagons, Best stay away from Trains and Boats.

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My heart aches for the family and friends of those who have lost their lives or been injured in this terrible incident.

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:(

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Sky News showing their compassion and human decency again by broadcasting footage of the aftermath and pushing clearly distressed witnesses to describe the gory details. :td:

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6 confirmed dead. :(

Some serious, potentially fatal, injuries.

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I was there in Glasgow today. Thankfully didn't witness it. Although was on Buchanan Street at Nelson Mandela Place just minutes after the emergency services had arrived. All shops/bars/hotels in and around the area were evacuated.

Overheard disgruntled diners moaning that they never got their last course and had left coats and drinks. TBH don't think they were aware of the dull situation.

First I knew about it was hearing the helicoptor overhead and St Vincent Street cordoned off at junction with Buchanan St. I then tried to get to hmv by cutting through Royal Exchange Square. It was there I saw people on the pavement and Police hastily trying to erect a fence around them and completly close off the whole of the Square.

Very shocking scenes indeed.

Because of all the road closures traffic soon ground to a halt too.

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My thoughts are with all involved.

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Yes there's a good deal too much of that going on these days. They need to reign in their desire for a juicy story to report on for hours/days/weeks...

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If that is supposed to be a joke/witty comment/funny, then really you should hang your head in shame.

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I call Sky News - Fox News UK.

Everytime I watch Sky News it always someone views.

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RIP to them.:(

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Totally surreal seeing the many blue flashing lights mixed with the Festive lights in George Square. I couldn't understand why they weren't switching off the Christmas lights; they seemed so inappropriate when there are bodies on the road. It transpires that the council offered to switch them off but the emergency services requested that leave them on as the illumination helped their investigation. Still seems unreal.
God bless the victims and their families. Praying for those who were injured.

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Here why:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-30580114

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Oops sorry LondonRoad just read the rest of your post.

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Stay classy the sun. :rolleyes:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/12/4.jpg

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How do you cope with losing both your parents and your daughter in one go? :(

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I honestly don't think you can. It's horrific.

In Glasgow again today and the atmosphere was very muted and sombre

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No prosecutions announced by Crown Office

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-31628698

Seems a fair decision.

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Not looking quite so fair now:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-33717233

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... Not to mention the previous incident in which he blacked out at the wheel of a bus, and then tried to deny it.

Having health issues that make you dangerous behind the wheel is one thing; actively covering up those issues is something else entirely. The man was an accident waiting to happen.

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I bet someone's glad that a prosecution has been ruled out...

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-33757494

This isn't looking any better for anyone concerned.

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Family of bin bin lorry crash victim calls for driver to be prosecuted.

http://news.stv.tv/west-central/1326...be-prosecuted/

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-33883903

From where I'm sitting the decision made in Scotland regarding any possible prosecution appears to be a major mistake. I wonder if anyone's head will roll...

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Plenty of baffling decisions get made by COPFS but this is especially weird. Section 1, death by dangerous driving, would probably not get past a jury with a competent defense lawyer but there are plenty of other charges that would fit the circumstances.

Giving the driver a get out of jail free card regardless of what else comes out is very strange indeed.

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Looks like, and I don't have or have not read all the details, but it
Looks like, he knew he had a pre-existing condition and knew he should not have been driving.

Therefore he should be prosecuted, if that is the case.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-33959101

I very much hope the families and loved one get what they feel is justice.

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I'm sure the bereaved families will feel this is rubbing salt in their considerable wounds:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-34438129

Maybe this time they'll actually do something...

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If it is the case that he was banned then I'd expect the council employee who hired him (without checking that he was safe to do the job) will be arrested and possibly charged as well.
Not holding my breath though....:dozey:

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This case is relating to the fact he was driven since the lorry crush despite being banned.

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Judges to rule on bin lorry driver private prosecution.

Families will hear in the autumn if they can bring proceedings against Harry Clarke.


http://stv.tv/news/west-central/1356...e-prosecution/

I hope the families get the outcome of what they are hoping for, I know nothing will bring back their loved ones but I do think that this man has got off Scot-Free and maybe just maybe a private prosecution will bring these poor families some justice.

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I do hope the families get justice. This whole thing is a serious blot on the Scottish legal system which needs to be erased IMHO. Good luck to them!

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So do I Osem I still find it had to believe that our legal system failed in such a clear cut case after all it is my understanding this man had not disclosed his medical background to his employers or the DVLA.

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I'll never understand why they effectively excluded him from prosecution before knowing the facts. :confused:

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The families have been let down again IMO and I cannot help but wonder why this man has got away with his lies that caused these unnecessary and totally avoidable deaths. Speaking as a wife of a HGV driver who today has just had his medical to keep his HGV license I was shocked to hear when he said that nothing has changed in regards to your medical for a HGV license maybe just a few more questions but that was all, his exact wording was hen nothing has changed if you wanted to you could still give false information. I said something must have changed he said the only thing that had changed was the price and a few more questions with his medical which shocked me as we both thought it would be more strict and lessons would have been learned from it. I was also shocked when he said that some HGV drivers go to centers that supply cheap medicals, some of these centers offer to your medical for as little as £50.00 as to the £115 he had to pay. IMO if you need this type of license you should need to go to your own GP for it.

https://stv.tv/news/west-central/137...e-prosecution/

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The renewal fee should include the medical fee IMHO and you must go to a designated doctor for the medical who must have access to your medical records.

Just my twopenn'orth.

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That is my opinion too pip and I was shocked when my hubby told me about these center's as he always goes to his/our own GP.

To renew your license it does not cost only the medical, it only occurs a fee if you need to replace the picture and the fee for that is £17.00. Then you also need a CPC which my husbands work pays for thankfully.

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The medicals should be a lot more strict ,my medical was performed by a retired doctor who did it on tuesdays and thursdays ,the cost of £50 was part of the initial test fee and paid to the doctor in cash .
There is an argument that the medical is like an MOT ,it's out of date as soon as you leave the garage .My own medical condition that stopped me being a HGV driver developed in under a year so it's not really surprising that many drivers are driving around with sometimes quite severe illnesses The other issue for me is that drivers only have to renew every 5 yrs after they are 45 yrs old, that then requires a medical as part of the renewal process but before the driver is 45 yrs old they do not require medicals every 5yrs .

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-39006862

Can anyone think of a bigger insult to the families and loved ones of those who died and were injured as a result of this guy's actions?

I hope he gets the maximum possible sentence.

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What a selfish man this is, he has the attitude of ME ME ME written all over him IMO.
'YOUR LUCK'S ABOUT TO RUN OUT' Lawyer’s warning to shamed bin lorry driver Harry Clarke who’s facing jail after admitting reckless driving on ANOTHER occasion. I hope the Lawyer is right with his comment and Mr Harry Clarke faces time behind bars.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/new...n-lorry-crash/

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I'm still mystified as to why the families were deprived of a private prosecution. :shrug:

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I just do not get it at all Osem.
A) How he got off Scott free.
B) How he could even consider driving again after causing such a horrific accident.
C) How he drove while having no license.
D) How he again ignored his medical condition and drove his car knowing the facts of what can happen if he blacked out.
E) How he thought it is still okay to drive with no license.

My list goes on and I really dislike this man and his repeated actions.

When I take my pain killers I would not even consider getting into to my car as it states on the package if affected do not drive, on many occasions I have phoned a neighbour to take the wee one to school or asked my eldest.