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You guys do realise that they will need a warrant to instigate monitoring of the calls/web/email of the persons of interest and that this isn't a blanket monitoring of the internet

From the bbc news article linked to in the first post

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From 3 years ago.:rolleyes:
Plan to monitor all internet use So whose idea was it?

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Must not be allowed to happen it really musn't neither this government or any of the potential ones in the future have the common sense not to misuse this sort of power and as for the whole warrant thing lol lol lol yes because we have never done surveilance in the past without warrants have we. This is simply the biggest invasion of privacy ever considered in this country and the citizens of this country have always had the right within reason and must continue to have freedom of speech without feeling they may be persecuted for what they say.

Look at the nsa in the US to see how good intentions can go badly wrong they are an agency that routinely infringes the rights of US citizens and rarely if ever get bought to task about it. This whole "terrorism" argument for all the extra monitoring and security is getting a bit thin now and is not valid also this system would not prevent that there are ways to communicate securely that would not be picked up by this system so terrorism as the excuse is complete bs.

Oh for the money to leave this country i would be off like a shot and given that at one point in time i would happily have died to defend this country i think thats a sad way for me to now think but i also know many others who share the sentiment.

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Why are people only now complaining about something that was enacted 3 years ago.:rolleyes:

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Doubt it will come to pass.After a few years it will probably be abandoned as too expensive and unwieldy.

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This is not the same as that, though. It takes it a step further.

The retention directive means that ISPs have to keep the records for a year, and provide them upon receiving a correct and legal request from an authorised party... which AFAIK requires a warrant.


The new proposals would enable GCHQ to access the same information in real-time, and without a warrant.


Even with it still "only" concerning the date/time/name/address of the communications in question, and not the actual content (without a warrant), I am still extremely opposed to this.

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Well they are clearly attempting to circumvent the current hoops which have to be jumped through to obtain an interception warrant to inspect historic data. This is the issue.

I rather suspect the bottom line is that the increased use of voip based interconnections and remote teleconference access is hurting our friends in North Yorkshire from engaging in their routine practice of state sponsored industrial espionage ;)

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Looking at any content would still need a warrant.

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I have a warrant can I look at your content:D:D

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Also they will have a mirrored feed of all traffic and whilst they may only use it for 'persons of interest' it could also be used for fishing expeditions or worse.

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What Mr Clegg says is irrelevant. Why would the government admit to engaging in clandestine interception of communications outisde the remit of the law of the land? In fact why would the government of another country admit to doing exactly the same thing on our soil with the blessing of our government on the basis of some "special" relationship?

To suggest that such a mechanism would not be abused is rather naive.

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Doesn't mean anything. Typical misdirection. They are not planning to go after content but the question would be if they needed a warrant to look at the places your visiting and the people with which you are communicating, that is what they are trying to implement after all. To say they need a warrant to look at content isn't relevant.

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Yes.

But it has been claimed that no warrant will be required for the real-time on-demand access to the other information, and that is still IMO a step too far.

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Maybe if you took the time to read the act from three years ago and read what is being implemented now you would know they are not the same :rolleyes:.

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Also in the linked article is a video of David Davis MP who completely contradicts the above in an interview on BBC news.