Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Next weeks 'Gadget Show' on Channel 5 HD is to review the V6.

This might help those who are thinking of getting one to come to a decision.

It's on at 7pm on 17 March 2017, with repeats the following day on Spike (10:05) and My5 at (12:00).

On Sunday the 19th, the final showing is on Channel 5 HD (12:00).

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As a long term sky subscriber (17 years) who has recently moved to virgin, I am extremely happy with my V6 boxes with the following minor exceptions:-

1) one of my V6 boxes often has green screen when I switch over to it or switch to on.

2) watching box B recordings on box A simply doesn't work

3) 1Tb boxes are too small for me recording a lot of HD live sport - why no box with a bigger drive?

As I said, apart from these probs I am really impressed.

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1) one of my V6 boxes often has green screen when I switch over to it or switch to on. sounds to me like a faulty box - give VM a ring

2) watching box B recordings on box A simply doesn't work again, if you have a faulty box this won't work. My two V6s talk fine to each other and I frequently watch recordings from the other box with no difficulty

3) 1Tb boxes are too small for me recording a lot of HD live sport - why no box with a bigger drive? Once you have two V6s connected you have 2TB of capacity...and twelve tuners!

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The green screen is compatibility problem with some TVs. There's a software update coming in the next few weeks that hopefully will fix it.

Problems with multi-room streaming are usually due to connection problems between one or both of the boxes and the SuperHub. But I'd start by rebooting both boxes. In what way doesn't it work?

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

I personally wouldn't trust the Gadget show reviews they are quite biased towards Apple and SKY i feel, however with the new team this might change.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

I couldn't stand Jason Bradbury, much prefer Craig Charles.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Jason Bradbury was a person to point at and laugh for being so 100% apple he became an irrelevance. He even looks like Jonny Ive made him, probably out of Aluminium.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

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Don't say that, lol. I always get told I look like Jason!

He was the only thing that kept me watching as he was so enthusiatic about tech.

I still wise Suzy Perry would comeback :-)

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1 and 2) previous replies to this problem suggested it was a hdmi problem??

3) Used to have 2 2Tb skyHD boxes so have only got half the space - surely virgin must be considering a box with at least 2Tb disk in it?

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Your green screen suggestion is a possible (connected to a Sony HD tv) - had green screens on and off since day1

As for connection problem - re-booted both a number of times, did actually get this working once but never since.

I had an engineer out after a couple of days (also had no phone line) - despite having reported the to problems he said he was only there to do the phone, had no knowledge of my to problems, wasn't even prepared to look at them - said he had already exceeded the 20 mins allowed to resolve my problem(s).

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There was talk of a 2 The box before launch, I guess they must have scrapped this idea.

Economies of scale will make it cheaper to have only one box and VM will make more money by getting two upfront charges and double ongoing monthly fees.

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I do wonder if VM have decided that a 1TB box is sufficient now that you can stream the programmes you want to see later from on demand services. They may also be contemplating access to the cloud to retrieve material later and this might well be the method they want us to use for UHD recordings when they are available on schedule based channels.

I have a Sony 4K TV but have not seen any green screen issues, but maybe the later Sonys don't have this problem. It seems to me that technology is moving ahead so fast that when you change once piece of equipment, sometimes this causes a compatibility problem for your older equipment.

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I forgot to mention that you may be able to make the problem go away by disabling some resolutions in the Video Output Formats settings screen.

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When MPEG4 is brought in, that's the ultimate answer....

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

IMO, Jon Bentley always seems like a Virgin "fan boy" so I don't see how you get that impression.

They still haven't reviewed Sky Q on the Gadget Show yet but now about a year later they're reviewing the V6...hmm.

Just really hating the new "old Top Gear style" of the show.
It ruined car reviews and it's now ruining gadget reviews with this "old-hat style" of reviews.

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Yeah i think it was Jason that was apple biased no idea why i thought sky lol, john i find is very good and open with his reviews.
I don't like Craig Charles it feels like he is forcing it for me the camera panned to Ortis when Craig was talking and Ortis had a "wth" expression on his face, the new gal is ok i thought plus nice on the eye lol.
I don't like the new format either but will give it a chance to get used to it at least they seem to have got rid of those stupid challenges, however they've copied someone on youtube with the blender lol.
At least they are trying to make it work though.
Personally i find Swipe and Click better shows.

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Not used virgin's on demand service. When I was with sky there was never anything on catchup that I wanted to watch (re-runs of live sports matches)


Are they available on virgin?

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Totally agree Jason was always enthusiastic about new tech and in my opinion always gave generally balanced reviews.

Suzi Perry , Pollyanna Woodward , Ortis Deley , Jason Bradbury and John Bentley was when it was at its best in my opinion.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Don't think it was on when Q came out.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Just watched the review and the overall opinion was "slightly disappointing for £55 a month".

Here is a roundup:

Good- improved speed. VM claim that it's 10 x faster than the old TiVo and this was accepted. Has Netflix (but not Amazon). Packages slightly cheaper than comparable Sky packages.

Could be useful- ability to record 6 channels at once for families watching diverse material. Being able to press a button on the box to locate the remote control.

Bad- Less channels, 4K content & VOD than Sky eg Broadchurch wasn't available on VM.

The Telly Tablet was particularly slated. It had a large screen and a useful stand, but a really low & tinny sound which was described as "terrible".

The actual mechanics of watching programmes wasn't good. The interface was said to be less slick than Sky Q, many shows weren't available, you can only play back off one of the two TiVos.

The actual streaming didn't work very well eg kept stopping.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Content issues for the most part aren't connected to whether it's a Sky Q or a V6. If Sky has an exclusive deal with ITV, then there's nothing VM can do about it.

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Doesn't sound very balanced to me! Were they as hard on the Sky Q, which has been subject to numerous customer complaints?

I'm well pleased with my 2 V6s, which communicate with each other with no problems.

What planet are these children on? I thought that they knew something about new technology!

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Watching the programme it would seem Jon Bentley has been using Sky Q in main room and has a hybrid LNB as he seems to have a freesat (white Sky+) in his second room.

His views seem slightly Sky-skewed as that would seem to be the box he has been using for the last few months.

It seems he has had Virgin 50Mb or 100Mb BB with a Sky Q TV package for last few months and from sounds of it he won't be switching.

Does it really take 2 installers to setup a V6 box?

6 recordings (coming soon) on Sky Q 2Tb while still watching live tv on 3 TV's and up to 4 tablets why would you choose any other service?

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Not for the V6 itself, but two are required if cables need to be pulled.

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Whereas you can already record 12 programmes at the same time with 2 V6s as well as enjoying all the Tivo features that many of us really appreciate.

I wonder how many households would actually use 7 screens at any one time to watch their telly? That's some addictive behaviour, what? :eek:

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Where as recording 12 simultaneous channels isn't.:banghead:

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Each to their own MM ;) as remember the world is full of different people who have different tastes and habits and don't tend to take the same genetic clone approach to everything.;)

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Ha ha! As you have probably guessed, I was commenting on the statement that Sky Q had capability to record 6 programmes at the same time (coming soon), as if that was an advantage over the V6s!

And for the avoidance of doubt, I cannot ever see myself recording 12 channels at the same time, particularly having regard to a declining number of programmes worth recording these days.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

I said earlier in the thread that the gadget show were sky fans.
What i saw i liked of the v6 tbf i think it has great potential and with correct updates etc it will be a very strong competitor for a long time.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

As an ex sky subscriber (17 years) who has recently switched to v6:-

There are far more errors reported on SkyQ.

Well used features from skyHD were omitted from SkyQ software (much to chagrin of many users)

Errors are minor on V6 when compared to those on SkyQ.

Virgin seem a bit more open with regard to admitting errors exist than sky (who often deny any such problem is known to them, do not pre-advise what problems are to be fixed in upcoming releases - or when release is happening)

Without doubt both systems are an Improvement when they work.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

I'm now on the latest Sky Q Software and on the whole it's been pretty flawless in operation and offers us far more than Sky+HD ever did.

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As l say not everybody gets the same experience sadly MM but one should not exaggerate the problems like some do sometimes.

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Agreed both Virgin and Sky know exactly how many problems.are being reported via the many channels such as call centres , online community , social media etc and direct resources accordingly.

Reading online forums and assuming everyone is having problems is something most people do , just look at the current next gen Youview software there are many many disgruntled punters posting on the forums giving the perception everyone hates it when in fact it's still probably the minority.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

I hadn't watched the Gadget Show for a long time as the presenters and those pointless and tedious 'challenges' used to annoy me but I did record this edition especially to see their review of the V6. I have had a pair of V6s for more than six weeks and I am pleased with them but if I had watched this show and their lukewarm review I might have postponed updating my slow and buggy TiVo boxes. The potential of daisy-chaining boxes together was not mentioned at all but IMO John Bentley hit the nail on the head when he bemoaned the lack of 4K content and especially when he said that what many people want - me included - is the widest variety of programming (he mentioned Netflix, Amazon and Now TV) all available via the same box. I can only hope that Virgin Media were listening and took notes.

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Kind of think i may of dodged a bullet with SKYQ at time i went back to SKY as offer was for 2tb SKYQ box however housing association were being awkward and wouldn't let SKY upgrade the system even though SKY were happy to do it for free lol so ended up with sky+hd box i bought from cash converters, sky were good enough to allow me to still keep my offer and said just check back when contract ends for skyq.
It will be interesting next year when SKY launch SKYQ online with their online tv service.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Has the latest SkyQ software got

1) manual recording?

2) favourite channels?

3) reminders?

All of these used to be available on sky+HD

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Did you see the part were I said for us , if I'm honest I haven't a clue as I hardly ever used any of the above even when on Sky+HD. I never record Sport , I pay a Premium to watch Live. Most of the US Sport I watch on Sky Sports is generally available in HD the morning after via On Demand so really no need to record and it saves FF the ad breaks.

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I would be rather surprised if you didn't have manual recording, but not bothered about the others. To this day, I can't see why people need to be 'reminded' that the box is recording a programme! Bizarre!

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Oh dear you seem to have rather put your foot in it again my wise sage.;)

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Well, things tend to be a bit quiet at the beginning of the week!

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Sky Q doesn't have manual recording I believe that said I wouldn't know if it's been added as I've never used it on any box.

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Does sky q have dynamic epg?

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Don't know, but the TiVo does to an extent.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

I believe the schedule can be updated on the fly by the broadcaster just like with Sky+HD.

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TiVo and V6 absolutely do not have a dynamic EPG.
The guide is only updated 4 times a day on these boxes and can't accommodate last minute schedule changes.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Thank you for the replies.

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Not according to Spiderplant. Apparently, it is dynamic to an extent if the change isn't too last minute.

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For me a dynamic epg is one that is able to be altered at a moments notice. eg a live event over runs and can be altered, similar to the way the freeview epg works.

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The operative words are 'can be' - totally dependent on the channel provider.

Manual recording ensures you do not miss the end when a match goes into extra time.

Use it all the time - one reason I wouldn't get SkyQ.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

For me Sport has to be watched live with the exception of games from the US in the early hours which are generally repeated the following day and available On Demand.

I accept everyone is different however , I'm not sure why manual recording was ommited from Sky Q. Maybe it wasn't used a lot I honestly don't know.

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Best watching on Freeview if possible then, it's several seconds ahead of Sky/VM.

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Agreed but I'd struggle watching BT Sport and Sky Sports on there.;)

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Although you can extend a recording on the Tivo and V6. A little bit quicker than setting it manually, I'd say.

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Yes, although the options (1 hour, 1.5 hours or 3 hours) are a little limited - would be good to be able to choose in half hourly increments.

A lot of the time I would like an extra 10 minutes in case of a slight overrun - always had sky+HD set to 10 mins before and after - even added this padding on both recordings when consecutive on same channel.

The padding of 5 minutes split between pre and post recording could also be less restrictive.

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You can do this under the 'modify recordings' option.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Indeed you can, I didn't realise that thanks.

Strange you can't set it for standard 10 mins before and after for all recordings but can change it after setting recording.

Still good to know it is possible in a fashion.

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

Mine gives me the options of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 15, 30 minutes, 1, 1.5 and 3 hours in modify recordings.

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Yes, but my point was why not allow it as a std setting.

Having to modify each recording is too tedious.

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Yours appears to have less choices for extending recordings.

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Upgraded 2 old TiVo's for 2 of these boxes for £74.89 looking forward to the increased speed

Re: Ch5's Gadget Show to Review the TiVo V6 next week(17th March)
 

I think you read his post incorrectly, Richard. He just gave that as an example.

Everyone gets the same options.