Cable Forum - Will Scotland Leave the UK?

On the points of lower taxes, and higher benefits/better public services, I would be interested in how this would be achieved.

I see you share his confidence in an 18 months timescale - I have no confidence that the other parties (which have a right to veto) would deliver in that timescale, and it would be inappropriate (imho) to hold them responsible if it wasn't met (as they have never been involved/agreed to this timescale); however, I can see Mr Salmond playing that card....

Unless they were 'bullied' into it by Bravemouth...

Mr Angry

10-06-2014 10:36

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I have confidence in his and the EU's ability to conclude negotiations within a predetermined 18 month timescale.

That is quite different from having confidence in him achieving what he wants. They are two very different things.

He does make some compelling points on the issue of continued EU membership though.

Derek

10-06-2014 11:08

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35705588)

That is quite different from having confidence in him achieving what he wants. They are two very different things.

The Yes camp are presenting continuing EU membership as a given when the majority of experts are saying it is anything but. 18 months from start to finish is a very ambitious timetable, especially if the method of entry isn't yet agreed.

On another note I've heard a few Nats on the BBC and Sky trying to claim the whole pound issue is sorted by referring to the unnamed government source that said "Of course there would be a currency union" while failing to mention the second part of the quote about keeping trident at Faslane (something Salmond has ruled out) yet no one so far has called them out on it.

Osem	10-06-2014 12:06

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Maybe someone's keeping their powder dry in order to put Bravemouth in his place when the time comes...

Derek

11-06-2014 10:36

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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-...itics-27793967

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Author JK Rowling has made a £1m donation to help fund the campaign against Scottish independence.

The writer of the Harry Potter books, who lives in Edinburgh, has publicly backed the Better Together campaign.

Explaining her decision on her website, Ms Rowling said there was a "denial of risks" within the "Yes" campaign.

She also said there was a "fringe of nationalists who like to demonise anyone who is not blindly and unquestionably pro-independence".

So if the SNP stay true to the principles of their early leaders expect an organised burning of Harry Potter books sometime soon.

Osem	11-06-2014 11:01

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She's just a bully... :D

Derek

11-06-2014 11:10

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35705971)

She's just a bully... :D

The blog post she put out is outstanding. The better together campaign should be printing out thousands of copies to give away. It sums things up perfectly and hits out as the yes campaign for refusing to acknowledge there is any risk involved with independence.

Osem	11-06-2014 11:16

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35705973)

Yes I heard a excerpt on the radio. As you'd expect she articulates the issues very well indeed.

Maybe there's a book in it - Harry Potter and the evil wizard Bravemouth... :D

Derek

11-06-2014 11:22

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35705975)

Maybe there's a book in it - Harry Potter and the evil wizard Bravemouth... :D

Unionius Protecto! Salmondius Expiliarmus! :D

Osem	11-06-2014 11:29

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:rofl:

Salmondius sounds like a rather pernicious bacterium which causes delusions, irrational behaviour and paranoia. :)

Chris

11-06-2014 14:31

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This should be up in lights in every town and city in Scotland.

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My hesitance at embracing independence has nothing to do with lack of belief in Scotland's remarkable people or its achievements.

"The simple truth is that Scotland is subject to the same 21st century pressures as the rest of the world. It must compete in the same global markets, defend itself from the same threats and navigate what still feels like a fragile economic recovery.

"The more I listen to the 'Yes' campaign, the more I worry about its minimisation and even denial of risks. Whenever the big issues are raised - our heavy reliance on oil revenue if we become independent, what currency we'll use, whether we'll get back into the EU - reasonable questions are drowned out by accusations of 'scaremongering'.

Well said, JK, but I hope you're ready for the bilious tidal wave that's coming your way, courtesy of Clan Cybernat, which will never forgive you for

A. Suggesting they're wrong, and
B. Being born in ... ENGLAND.

nashville

11-06-2014 15:10

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Well done to J K Rowling for her donation to the No Vote Campaign

Derek

11-06-2014 15:11

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Oooft the Guess crowd have gone a bit radge (see union supporting Scots can use slang as well) over JKs input including this charming tweet.

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@DignityProject: What a #bitch after we gave her shelter in our city when she was a single mum. http://t.co/6hYglHV2sk

According to their twitter blurb the Dignity project are Scottish charity working in Africa with a CBCC programme Community Based Childcare Programme for orphans and vulnerable children but think abusing a woman for having an opinion is acceptable.

https://twitter.com/dignityproject/s...84436676034560
Disgraceful

There is a buzzfeed link with some other tweets but it's very NSFW due to swearing.