Ukraine Humanitarian Crisis Discussion
 

The worst of us ..

Tory MP says UK doesn't need to do more for Ukraine - as 'we've done our bit with migration'

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Why is he "the worst of us" ?

Ukraine Humanitarian Crisis Discussion
 

His rejection of a proposal to help Ukrainians flee the war zone since he feels that we have "done our bit in terms of migration from eastern Europe".

We should stand with the rest of Europe and help in the same way they are. By not doing so, we show the world where this government has taken this country.

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Well said Sir. We used to be a respected country, a refuge for those genuinely in need. If we're not going to militarily get involved, then it's the least we can do.

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I’m not sure if you have misread this.

Firstly, Leigh made the point that his constituency was "under extreme pressure in terms of housing and jobs". That is, presumably a fact.

Leigh was speaking after the home secretary outlined plans for the expansion of rules for Ukrainian family members to come to the UK. This would mean the loosening of the eligibility criteria from just spouses and children under 18 to grandparents, siblings, and adult children. Priti Patel also confirmed the relaxation of language requirements and salary thresholds that apply to most migrants entering the UK.

Leigh described her response as "proportionate".

You can feel sorry for people who are displaced, and that is only human. But there is a limit to how far you can go to help people. If hordes of people are brought into a situation where there is insufficient houses and jobs, that is incredibly short-sighted. You are not doing your constituents any favours and you are putting these people into a position of no hope.

You need to think things through when in government and that is what the Home Secretary and this particular MP are doing.

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You can be very certain I have misread nothing. This MP, together with Patel, Raab et al. are pandering to the prejudices of a small xenophobic minority in this country, nothing more. They think that by trying to curry favour with these people they hope to cling to power.

We are so much better than these morons and what they represent.

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Seem impractical. We don't know how long that would take and be asking people to live in limbo, unable to commit to a settled life here in case they go back.

If people are coming here to stay they should feel like they live a life here. Work long term, buy a home, settle in the community.

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He should represent is constituents, which is what he was doing.
Of course, the mere fact they are a conservative means you will attack them, regardless.
Well at least you havent lost your ability to spout complete nonsense.

We dont live in some magical land, where houses, schools, services and everything else that 200,000+ (or whatever) people will need just happens to grow on a tree at the bottom of your garden.

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Some do think we live in that magical land, you can tell who they are because they've converted the spare bedroom/loft/garage into a nice pleasant place in which the people they've taken in can live comfortably. They also now 'job share' with them, and let them use the car for taking the kids to school . . .

I don't actually know any, but there must be loads of them if the guff on social media is to be believed

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It's a different argument to say that there is no capacity in your own constituency for more people than to say the country shouldn't take in Ukranian refugees full stop.

A million people left the UK to return to EU countries during the Covid lockdowns, so presumably some opportunities for Ukranian refugees to replace some of these people exist? There's currently over 600,000 full time vacancies on Indeed.co.uk; many work places including schools, care homes and hospitals could do with another pair of hands.

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Except he didnt say that, as Im sure you well know. :dozey:

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No, they are being practical. Where would these additional people go? How would they survive without jobs? If you would allow this as a free for all, where would you put them? Are you going to create our very own tent city?

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Over 640,000 full-time vacancies on Indeed.co.uk and over a million EU nationals returned home during the lockdowns.

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Don't worry Old Boy, if we do take anyone and the Government re-use the Afghanistan model then I doubt any of the pesky foreigners will darken Wokingham. Why would they when they can just put them in areas with Labour councils. Have a read.

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