Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

http://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-cor...in-uk-10893243

If Corbyn had his way. He would totally ignore the terrorism that is happening now, and ask for talks to prevent the barbaric actions being carried out on our shores.

Maybe if Cobyn said that we would STOP all Immigration until our shores are safe. Maybe it would be better.

What has happened in Manchester is sick *******, that want to create the most carnage possible and kill innocent people, who just went out an enjoy a great day.

What l believe should have happen, Is to BAN all persons entering the UK. Until security services know who they are.

The biggest problem we have is that is too late. I have said long again on this forum. Is that we have had loads of people from overseas, plus illegals that have entered these shores.

Its no good MPs from all parties saying that we should stem Immigration to 100.000. Anyone of the persons that have entered this Country COULD be a terrorist, through lack of border controls searches.

Theresa May should ordered a total ban NOW. on anyone who enters this country with a foreign passport. Until they have been thoroughly checked.

Biggest problem with Corbyn, he doesn't like getting involved in wars. He would rather talk to assassins, terrorists and try and sort the problem out.

Sorry Jeremy, it needs Action NOW

My heart, and prayers go to all the victims families in horrendous crimes. We must remain strong, and vigilant AT ALL TIMES

MODERATOR, l have already changed a certain word - trust you understand

Re: Corbyn is Nuts
 

How would stopping immigration have prevented this attack, yet again it's a homegrown loser, imo we need to get the prisons sorted and perhaps shut down some of the worst mosques the ones that may have been founded with Saudi money for instance.

https://www.ft.com/content/5d67bf24-...6-896b95f30f58

Also I think corbyn is right, we wouldn't be getting attacked now if it weren't for our foreign policy but then let's also not forget why we got involved in these foreign misadventures in the first place, that said corbyn shouldn't have said this now imo, it was not needed

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This shows that allowing ANY Muslim into the country will ultimately result in terrorism or other violent acts. Whether by other members of the family, existing or new, or by non-Muslims being "infected" and converted by Muslims already here, eg in Lee Rigby case,Michael Adeboljao came from a Christian family.

And in how many other cases has there been in areas with no Western involvement? How many cases took place LONG BEFORE any Western involvement?

Re: Corbyn is Nuts
 

Arthur you are completely wrong. We have to talk to those who would rather kill us like we did with the IRA.The west have brought all this all upon themselves by continually poking our noses in only where we might get some access to oil or whatever other resources..we need to be mediators not warmongers. We should defend ourselves when attacked but we shouldn't be getting actively involved in other countries disputes except to offer humanitarian aid and the chance to talk for a peaceful settlement between parties. In hindsight don't you think we should never have gone into Afghanistan or Iraq? We have interfered to the extent that we left a void for such groups to find grievances and that is where Corbyn has got it right..we should never have gone along with the US in this.

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The IRA had an objective that we could negotiate around, the product of which was the power sharing solution we have in Northern Ireland today.

Islamic radicals have no such objective, their destination is complete Islamicfication of the world.

Good luck negotiating with that.

We were totally justified going into Afghanistan, it was a UN operation, there was irrefutable evidence that it was the base for al Qaeda. We should have gone into Afghanistan 100% wiped out the Taliban and Al Qaeda. But we didn't we took our foot off it and turned to Iraq. This meant that the Taliban and Al qaeda were able to regroup.

Going into Iraq was 100% the wrong thing to do. The evidence was always suspect and it was well known that Saddam and Al Qaeda were not allies.

On the other hand the worlds in-action to intervene in Syria is to our shame. Here the UN is seen for what it is, a talking shop.

The setting up of UN safe zones in Syria would have helped ease the migrant flow and saved lives.

As Iraqi forces beat back IS from their country and hopefully secure their country. That will then just leave Syria.

I'm afraid that country will just continue to burn.

Ideally it should be declared a failed state, Assad should be removed, a UN force sent in to secure the country. The Country should then be rebuilt and a new government put in place.

But Russia will not agree to it so it won't happen.

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And now the chickens have come home to roost..and we are where we are because we keep getting involved.We need less reliance on what we can get from the middle east in regards to energy resources which will give us a better place to negotiate from.

Re: Corbyn is Nuts
 

The common factor is that Corbyn and the Left SUPPORT the terrorist activities. It gives them the belief that they could win. Would they bother, unless they believe there is a genuine chance of winning and that they have sufficient support?

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Negotiate with terrorists? Give them what they want, so they do more of what they do.

And no we have not brought this on ourselves at all, 22 people including children did not die because we have brought this on ourselves. Rubbish.

Re: Corbyn is Nuts
 

You can't negotiate with an ideology that changes depending on who you are talking to.

Neither can you eradicate it 100%, as just one person can be the seed to make it spread again.

But you can decimate any you find that support it, but that would be fodder for lawyers and politicians. And what are many of our politicians? Bl**dy lawyers...

Re: Corbyn is Nuts
 

Corbyn just can't switch out of maverick backbencher mode. Can anyone seriously imagine him representing or negotiating on behalf of the UK internationally? He's a clown and a very dangerous one.

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Unfortunately many will vote for Labour to swing UK life back away from Tory austerity and the vicious attacks on the poor, disabled and unemployed.

And that will put the country more in debt, so the Tories will get reelected.

This is the way of the 2 Party system. :(

Re: Corbyn is Nuts
 

I agree he is nuts and a traitor. He would be among those i would put against the wall if i had my way.

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Agreed i trust Boris more that Corbyn.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

I just listened to his pronouncements on what labour would do with increasing police numbers, not deploying troops unless in dire need etc and it all sounded very reasonable. The kind of stuff I'd hope and expect the tories to say. :(

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

If we get involved in foreign affairs we are wrong but if we don't get involved we are slammed by the same bleeding hearts that criticise us for getting involved it's the perfect example of how screwed up we are in the west. There is no negotiating with islamic extremists their goal is the complete eradication of the west and for there to be a global islamic rule nothing short of that oh sure they will play nice with us to get us off their backs while they attack elsewhere building up the resources and personnel for the war with the west but that's it. We either go all in on this and find them wherever they are and kill them or we pull up the drawbridge in the west watch as the rest of the world falls and wake up one morning all on our own with the enemy at our door.

As long as we keep trying to negotiate and reasonably approach this we will continue to bury our citizens as attack after attack hits us not how i want the future for my kids or anyone elses.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

There's myriad victims of Islamic extremism all over the world who've had nothing to do with wars in the middle east or the persecution of Muslims. Many of the victims of ISIS and the like have been aid workers trying to help Muslims FGS. So far as ISIS are concerned, though, they just happen to be the wrong sort of Muslims...

The fact is that Islamic extremism will use any excuse to justify its aims and sink to whatever depths of evil are necessary to achieve them. If anyone thinks you can negotiate or even reason with such people they're as nuts as Corbyn is.