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Arthurgray50@blu 24-08-2016 22:39

Controversial bag charge a success as shoppers will use 6 billion fewer plastic bags
 
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-07-30/c...ags-this-year/
1) wht about the companies that make plastic bags. What about the staff. Have they had to lay off staff due to this.

2) Many shops are making the 5p charge a farcical one. No matter hw small

There is only two snags over this ludicrous charge. And obsession on making money for the Government.
the bag is. You still get charged 5p.
I have seen customers at my local Tesco/ Asda walking out of shops with the shopping in the hands. And even baskets with tags on, to stop people taking them.

3) If l buy 60/70 quid's worth of goods in a store - why should l have to pay 5p for a bag to put them in.

Totally ridiculous:(

Gary L 24-08-2016 22:52

Re: The farcical charge
 
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35855814)
3) If l buy 60/70 quid's worth of goods in a store - why should l have to pay 5p for a bag to put them in.

Totally ridiculous:(

You should do what I do. kick up a stink and cause a scene about not wanting to pay for some bags when you've spent all that money already. the cashier usually just gives you the bags for free. or the little old lady behind you gives you 30p for some bags.

Arthurgray50@blu 24-08-2016 23:20

Re: The farcical charge
 
Gary. I like that.
My wife walks away when l kick up fuss about the charge. I think its great. As everyone knows around us, that l am kicking up a fuss. As l think the charge is stupid.

What l think is that the stupid thing they do about placing tags on baskets. What about the trollies you see bout your house or on the corner. Where people have walked out of the shop and down the road with the trolley.

And the sign that says ' you cannot take trollies past this point' and you see the trolley in the car park

Julian 24-08-2016 23:23

Re: The farcical charge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35855814)
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-07-30/c...ags-this-year/
1) wht about the companies that make plastic bags. What about the staff. Have they had to lay off staff due to this.

2) Many shops are making the 5p charge a farcical one. No matter hw small

There is only two snags over this ludicrous charge. And obsession on making money for the Government.
the bag is. You still get charged 5p.
I have seen customers at my local Tesco/ Asda walking out of shops with the shopping in the hands. And even baskets with tags on, to stop people taking them.


3) If l buy 60/70 quid's worth of goods in a store - why should l have to pay 5p for a bag to put them in.

Totally ridiculous:(

When you get home, what happens to the carrier bag Arthur?

I'm not talking about immediately, more the following 5000 years.......

Kursk 25-08-2016 00:45

Re: The farcical charge
 
Don't be such a tightwad Arthur, it's only 5p per bag. You can easily avoid the charge by taking a bag with you when you shop :sleep:.

Wales, Scotland and NI have been charging for plastic bags for years and the environment is noticeably better for it. No plastic bags in hedgerows, floating in the sea or blowing around your town when discarded by louts.

I think it's good to make people think twice about littering.

RizzyKing 25-08-2016 01:09

Re: The farcical charge
 
Arthur I'll let you in on a closely guarded secret ok you ready......pay 10p and get the reusable bag over the course of a year it works out at virtually nothing now go and find something to occupy yourself and stop getting worked up over absolutely nothing. Or don't but please stop making threads about trivial stupidity.

Taf 25-08-2016 01:17

Re: The farcical charge
 
Most "plastic" one-trip bags are now made with corn starch and degrade very quickly with minimal effect on the environment.

The charge is also levies on paper bags.

This is a nod to "environmentalists" who are in most part "mentalists".

Reusing bags is liable to expose many people to various maladies.

Sirius 25-08-2016 06:39

Re: The farcical charge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35855836)
Arthur I'll let you in on a closely guarded secret ok you ready......pay 10p and get the reusable bag over the course of a year it works out at virtually nothing now go and find something to occupy yourself and stop getting worked up over absolutely nothing. Or don't but please stop making threads about trivial stupidity.

:clap:

Ken W 25-08-2016 07:14

Re: The farcical charge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35855814)
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-07-30/c...ags-this-year/
1) wht about the companies that make plastic bags. What about the staff. Have they had to lay off staff due to this.

2) Many shops are making the 5p charge a farcical one. No matter hw small

There is only two snags over this ludicrous charge. And obsession on making money for the Government.
the bag is. You still get charged 5p.
I have seen customers at my local Tesco/ Asda walking out of shops with the shopping in the hands. And even baskets with tags on, to stop people taking them.

3) If l buy 60/70 quid's worth of goods in a store - why should l have to pay 5p for a bag to put them in.

Totally ridiculous:(

I take my carrier bags.

Maggy 25-08-2016 08:35

Re: The farcical charge
 
Arthur just buy these like I did.I never,ever have to worry about plastic bags ever again in my life.. bags have actually become currency among my OH's gardening mates because they are useful for handing out the veg they grow to the community.

http://www.lakeland.co.uk/24862/4-Re...ey-Bags---Deep

Carrier

denphone 25-08-2016 08:41

Re: The farcical charge
 
We have countless bags for life in our car as its very easy and cheap to make little changes which all in all in all will improve the environment for us all.

heero_yuy 25-08-2016 08:46

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I have several "Bags for life" from Sainsbury's. When one gets worn out they'll swap it for a new one for free and re-cycle the old one. They're strong and have decent handles and it's no sweat to remember to take them with you. Just get into the habit.

Stuart 25-08-2016 09:38

Re: The farcical charge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35855814)
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-07-30/c...ags-this-year/
1) wht about the companies that make plastic bags. What about the staff. Have they had to lay off staff due to this.

What about the environmental impact of six billion extra bags? Recycling them helps, but it's not a magic bullet.
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2) Many shops are making the 5p charge a farcical one. No matter hw small the bag is. You still get charged 5p.
How so? It's working well near where I live, and where I work. The small shops are giving out bags for free, and the chains aren't.
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There is only two snags over this ludicrous charge. And obsession on making money for the Government.
Money that can be spent on, ohh, hospitals, schools etc. Despite what you say, the government making money is not necessarily a bad thing, and they have one major source of income. The tax payer. Like it or not, a large percentage of the government's income comes from individual people like you and me paying our taxes. Yes, corporations should pay more tax than they do, but that's not going to diminish the percentage of tax paid by the individual much.
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I have seen customers at my local Tesco/ Asda walking out of shops with the shopping in the hands. And even baskets with tags on, to stop people taking them.
Carrying shopping out in your hands is not necessarily a bad thing. If you can carry it in your hands, why do you need a bag, plastic or otherwise?

Baskets only cost the supermarket a few pounds, but theft is theft, and if someone nicks a basket, that means that possibly quite a few people will not have a basket with which to do their shopping for a few days.
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3) If l buy 60/70 quid's worth of goods in a store - why should l have to pay 5p for a bag to put them in.

Totally ridiculous:(
If you spend £60 or £70 worth of goods in a store, you can re-use old bags (as the law is designed to encourage), or the extra 20 or 30 p for bags isn't going to make much difference.

Chris 25-08-2016 09:51

Re: The farcical charge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35855837)
Most "plastic" one-trip bags are now made with corn starch and degrade very quickly with minimal effect on the environment.

The charge is also levies on paper bags.

This is a nod to "environmentalists" who are in most part "mentalists".

Reusing bags is liable to expose many people to various maladies.

Paper bags are significantly heavier than plastic ones and therefore have a greater environmental cost in their transport, not to mention the tree-felling and bleaching that goes on during manufacture. They are also single use.

I've been re-using the same machine washable woven polyester carrier bags for a year now and haven't contracted any bizarre skin complaints yet.

Sirius 25-08-2016 10:03

Re: The farcical charge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35855859)
We have countless bags for life in our car as its very easy and cheap to make little changes which all in all in all will improve the environment for us all.

Same here.


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