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ianch99 13-08-2017 20:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35912340)
@IvankaTrump

There should be no place in society for racism, white supremacy and neo-nazis.
Acting President?

Mick 13-08-2017 20:45
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What I cannot quite fathom is why leave up symbolism to slavery in this day and age, confederate flags still being left up etc.

When slavery was abolished all known representation to such a thing should have been removed.

In Germany, it is illegal to do the Nazi Salute, if ones own country, in which the salute originated, can outright ban it and make it a criminal offense, then it should be illegal across the world, only problem in the U.S is the first Amendment.

deadite66 13-08-2017 21:14
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Sargon of Akkads take on the clash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgccg9xurE8

Hugh 13-08-2017 22:03
Re: US: Violent clashes Charlottesville
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35912348)
What I cannot quite fathom is why leave up symbolism to slavery in this day and age, confederate flags still being left up etc.

When slavery was abolished all known representation to such a thing should have been removed.

In Germany, it is illegal to do the Nazi Salute, if ones own country, in which the salute originated, can outright ban it and make it a criminal offense, then it should be illegal across the world, only problem in the U.S is the first Amendment.
They don't have statues of Benedict Arnold, so why do they have statues of other traitors?

Chris 14-08-2017 10:41
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35912161)
Doesn't seem like hate preaching to me.
"On many sides". Classic equivocation, similarly used by Corbyn in an attempt to avoid turning against his Chavista pals in Venezuela.

However rowdy the anti-fascists got, they didn't bring out any militia armed to the teeth. They were not equivalent, in their morality or their actions, and to attempt to treat them as such demonstrates which side Trump instinctively supports.

Mick 14-08-2017 12:07
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They can be just as bad as each other. Just google Antifa Berkeley, California.

Black lives matter, destroying their towns people property in their own neighbourhoods.

1andrew1 14-08-2017 19:38
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35912392)
"On many sides". Classic equivocation, similarly used by Corbyn in an attempt to avoid turning against his Chavista pals in Venezuela.

However rowdy the anti-fascists got, they didn't bring out any militia armed to the teeth. They were not equivalent, in their morality or their actions, and to attempt to treat them as such demonstrates which side Trump instinctively supports.
Spot on Chris, on both fronts. And you weren't the first to notice the similarities between the terrible Corbyn and Trump.

Mick 14-08-2017 19:46
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Google cancel Neo Nazi website, Daily Stormer's registration and GoDaddy also wade in and give them 24 hours to find another domain registration provider, for the disgusting comments they made about the victim I'm not going to repeat them here but they are in the source, I link to below.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us...rnd/index.html

Damien 14-08-2017 20:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35912495)
Google cancel Neo Nazi website, Daily Stormer's registration and GoDaddy also wade in and give them 24 hours to find another domain registration provider, for the disgusting comments they made about the victim I'm not going to repeat them here but they are in the source, I link to below.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us...rnd/index.html
I looked it up. Nothing really surprises me with Neo-Nazis though, it's pure hate. They're what happens when all last parts of conscience have gone.

1andrew1 14-08-2017 20:20
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Good news is that Trump has finally condemned the white supremacists by name. Bad news is he's taken 48 hours to get round to it. Looks like it took the resignation of adviser Ken Frazier to shift him.

Mick 14-08-2017 20:29
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I'm pretty sure he condemned all the groups on Saturday.

1andrew1 14-08-2017 20:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35912505)
I'm pretty sure he condemned all the groups on Saturday.
Quote:
Earlier in the day, US business leaders joined in the criticism of the president’s reluctance to denounce the violence perpetrated by white nationalist extremists in Charlottesville, Virginia on Saturday. The protesters were objecting to the removal of a statue dedicated Robert E Lee, the leading confederate general in the American Civil War.
On Monday morning, Merck chief executive Ken Frazier issued a statement on Twitter saying he had decided to resign from Donald Trump’s American Manufacturing Council “as a matter of personal conscience”. Other corporate leaders, including Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs, criticised the president’s reluctance to denounce members of the far-right, many of whom count themselves among Mr Trump’s supporters.
https://www.ft.com/content/2cb0f04c-...2-c5b903247afd

Mick 14-08-2017 20:48
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Not sure how that disputes my previous post.

deadite66 14-08-2017 20:52
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35912505)
I'm pretty sure he condemned all the groups on Saturday.
The problem the media had with Trumps statement is he condemned the far left as well.

1andrew1 14-08-2017 21:01
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35912510)
Not sure how that disputes my previous post.
The important two words are in post 40 "by name". If he'd done this in a timely fashion, he wouldn't have been condemned by many people and he wouldn't have a resignation from Ken Frazier to contend with.

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Shocked by some of the flags. I thought these would be banned.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b090964297ba58


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