Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35912206)

Anyone who likes to delude themselves that the left has a monopoly on violent protests, please avoid this thread!

Originally Posted by Onramp (Post 35912211)

There is evidence that some of the leftist groups are being "handled" and funded by powerful figures. Since those leftists are being told through the controlled media that anyone right of centre is automatically a racist, it creates the perfect opportunity for underhanded actors to create a "Unite the Right" thing - so that they can paint everyone right-of-centre as extreme racist bigots and shut down everything to the right of the hard-left's viewpoint.

Why would they do this? So that those who control and manipulate dumb extreme left and right groups can deliver their version of order out of the ensuing chaos. Expect protests and gatherings to become illegal. The state will soon have the justification it needs to shut out anything except leftist thought, which itself is simply a tool employed deliberately to destabilize a nation.

I don't think this is just a few nutjobs on either side, I think the antifa groups are being paid in order to provoke a condemable reaction from the extreme right so that society can be remade in a different way.

Originally Posted by Onramp (Post 35912211)

There is evidence that some of the leftist groups are being "handled" and funded by powerful figures. Since those leftists are being told through the controlled media that anyone right of centre is automatically a racist, it creates the perfect opportunity for underhanded actors to create a "Unite the Right" thing - so that they can paint everyone right-of-centre as extreme racist bigots and shut down everything to the right of the hard-left's viewpoint.

Why would they do this? To deliver their version of order out of the ensuing chaos. Expect protests and gatherings to become illegal. The state will soon have the justification it needs to shut out anything except leftist thought, which itself is simply a tool employed deliberately to destabilize a nation.

I don't think this is just a few nutjobs on either side, I think the antifa groups are being paid in order to provoke a condemable reaction from the extreme right so that society can be remade in a different way.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35912215)

If there is indeed evidence then I'm sure forum readers would like to see it.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35912216)

So the white nationalists were actors funded by the media??

Originally Posted by Onramp (Post 35912222)

Sure, here you go:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ting/99417808/

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Not funded by the media itself, but there will have been agent provocateurs delivered to the protest in order to engage in unacceptable behavior for the TV cameras. For every group of people at a march, normally some of the leading figures are working for the FBI, for example, as an "informant". This goes for both left and right. There is no "innocent" party involved here, but I very heavily doubt that every single one of the "right" there were actual, real-life, flag-carrying nazis. All too often, it's the state who go in there and kick things off.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35912226)

Good God you really do means it ! I blame cable TV and the internet...:erm:

So the 'state' that are behind all this and 'kick it off' would be Donald Trump?

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35912238)

They have their own policies to blame for all of this, especially the Right to Assemble in the First Amendment:



So one group should be allowed to assemble, etc. So have their opponents. No matter what they think of each other. Shouting down your opponents is denying them their rights, so the police should intervene.

I do not side with either of the groups.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35912263)

They've charged the guy who ran people over: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...otest-violence

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35912266)

Good and I hope they get him on terror charges.