Cable Forum

Cable Forum (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/index.php)
-   General IT Discussion (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=19)
-   -   Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/showthread.php?t=33687165)

pop80_uk 22-04-2012 17:49

Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Hey all,
I currently have this machine which I built three years ago

Mainboard : Gigabyte G31M-S2L
Chipset : Intel G31/G33/G35
Processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2666MHz
Physical Memory : 4096MB (2 x 2048 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
Network Card : Realtek Semiconductor RTL8168/8111 PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Adapter

Ive pretty much upgraded it to as much as it can go and unfortunately my quest (or laziness) not to upgrade sue to having to re-install the OS and basically start again will all my programs and installed items has now caught up with me.

My only problem is I have been away from PC building for so long that im a bit rusty on specs and best makes etc.

So my question to you guys is, I have £300 to potentially spend, can you make some recommendations and also suggest what sort of improvement I will see.

I already have these components ready:
Asus Essence STX Sound card
256GB Crucial SSD
Hyper PSU

Thanks! ;)

gba93 22-04-2012 18:02

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pop80_uk (Post 35417760)
Hey all,
I currently have this machine which I built three years ago

Mainboard : Gigabyte G31M-S2L
Chipset : Intel G31/G33/G35
Processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2666MHz
Physical Memory : 4096MB (2 x 2048 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
Network Card : Realtek Semiconductor RTL8168/8111 PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Adapter

Ive pretty much upgraded it to as much as it can go and unfortunately my quest (or laziness) not to upgrade sue to having to re-install the OS and basically start again will all my programs and installed items has now caught up with me.

My only problem is I have been away from PC building for so long that im a bit rusty on specs and best makes etc.

So my question to you guys is, I have £300 to potentially spend, can you make some recommendations and also suggest what sort of improvement I will see.

I already have these components ready:
Asus Essence STX Sound card
256GB Crucial SSD
Hyper PSU

Thanks! ;)

Are you locked into Intel or would you consider an AMD option ?

pop80_uk 22-04-2012 18:14

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35417774)
Are you locked into Intel or would you consider an AMD option ?

Open to AMD, just been told that Intel have the edge

gba93 22-04-2012 18:31

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pop80_uk (Post 35417787)
Open to AMD, just been told that Intel have the edge

In all honesty that is probably right but it's a bit like the News Corp fiasco sometimes you just don't want your money to go to the big corporations (not that AMD are all that small).

Anyway I'm going through the same process as you and my final choice is as follows:
- Asus Sabertooth 990FX motherboard (military spec - 5 year warranty)
- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition (maybe old but overclocks well)
- Corsair Vengence 1600Mhz (16mb)
Total cost approx £330

I'm sure that someone will be able to come up with a competitive Intel alternative but the above is a stonking AMD rig for the price :)

DocDutch 22-04-2012 18:38

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Now do you play games on your pc at all? If yes then you might have to up your budget

But if you have a look at scan you can get the i5 2500k in an overclocked bundle for 330

pop80_uk 22-04-2012 18:41

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 35417807)
Now do you play games on your pc at all? If yes then you might have to up your budget

But if you have a look at scan you can get the i5 2500k in an overclocked bundle for 330

Not really, no

The games I play are old by gamers terms C&C etc, web browsing and genuine PC use.

I5 may do it, do you have a link?

Thanks ;)

---------- Post added at 18:41 ---------- Previous post was at 18:41 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35417799)
In all honesty that is probably right but it's a bit like the News Corp fiasco sometimes you just don't want your money to go to the big corporations (not that AMD are all that small).

Anyway I'm going through the same process as you and my final choice is as follows:
- Asus Sabertooth 990FX motherboard (military spec - 5 year warranty)
- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition (maybe old but overclocks well)
- Corsair Vengence 1600Mhz (16mb)
Total cost approx £330

I'm sure that someone will be able to come up with a competitive Intel alternative but the above is a stonking AMD rig for the price :)

Thank you,
Sounds interesting, I guess a vast improvement from what I have? ;)

DocDutch 22-04-2012 20:15

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
This should do you just select the i5 and change the mobo i would go for the z68x-ud3 over the standard board
Link http://www.scan.co.uk/3xs-overclocked-bundles

gba93 22-04-2012 21:08

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pop80_uk (Post 35417809)
Thank you,
Sounds interesting, I guess a vast improvement from what I have? ;)

It would be and I'm sure you wouldn't be disappointed - let us know what you finally decide

SnoopZ 22-04-2012 21:20

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
I upgraded my old computer for around £300, with an intel i3, 8GB ddr3 memory and an cheap Asus motherboard with IDE connector to make use of my old existing HDDs and a cheapo graphics card as i don't play games on it.

The i3 is an awesome processor though for £90 so should be ok for your needs.

boroboi 22-04-2012 23:02

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
With an i3 you don't even need a cheapo graphics card, because it has one on-die.

pop80_uk 23-04-2012 01:09

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Just wondering if I could save some time / money and buy this and upgrade the RAM:

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pid=2456#sp

Im pretty sure everything I have now could be transferred to this board, do you think I would get away without having to re-install windows 7 as well if I bought this?

I know that usually when you get build a new PC it requires a total re-install but I heard you can get round this by buying the same brand.

Any thoughts, would this work?

DocDutch 23-04-2012 06:41

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Pop that board is older than the 1 you got now so more down than upgrade.

pop80_uk 23-04-2012 08:33

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 35417997)
Pop that board is older than the 1 you got now so more down than upgrade.

Really :confused:
But its got more slots and can take 8GB of RAM?

Is there any board from Gigabyte which is an upgrade of mine but will work without a full re-install of windows and allow me to install some more RAM?

Thanks ;)

Graham M 23-04-2012 09:01

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Almost seems like a waste of time upgrading from the machine you are already using if it works fine and does everything that you use it for with no problems :confused:

Gavin78 25-04-2012 00:49

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
can't you just ghost the current drive? then port it over to the new system?

tizmeinnit 27-04-2012 11:54

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham M (Post 35418026)
Almost seems like a waste of time upgrading from the machine you are already using if it works fine and does everything that you use it for with no problems :confused:

I agree . The £300 available will not give you any real world benefits. Maybe double your ram

pop80_uk 29-04-2012 13:08

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35419853)
I agree . The £300 available will not give you any real world benefits. Maybe double your ram

Thats my problem really, the Gigabyte G31M-S2L only supports 4GB of RAM, I am more than happy with the other components, I could just use another 4GB of RAM and was hoping that I could just upgrade the Gigabyte G31M-S2L to a Gigabyte *Something* with no fuss.

But I struggling to find out if this is possible or if an upgraded board exists.

---------- Post added at 12:57 ---------- Previous post was at 12:40 ----------

Would any of these provide the type of upgrade im looking for?

GA-G31M-ES2L
GIGABYTE GA-EP43-S3L

---------- Post added at 13:08 ---------- Previous post was at 12:57 ----------

OR

Gigabyte GA-G41MT-S2PT

tizmeinnit 29-04-2012 13:17

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
http://www.ebuyer.com/267114-gigabyt...x-ga-g41mt-s2p this one supports 8 gig

---------- Post added at 13:15 ---------- Previous post was at 13:15 ----------

http://www.ebuyer.com/288744-gigabyt...-ga-g41mt-s2pt

---------- Post added at 13:16 ---------- Previous post was at 13:15 ----------

http://www.ebuyer.com/267510-gigabyt...d-ga-g41mt-d3v

---------- Post added at 13:17 ---------- Previous post was at 13:16 ----------

plenty to choose from and only 30 to 40 notes

pop80_uk 29-04-2012 13:26

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Which one would you recommend?
I am swayed towards the http://www.ebuyer.com/288744-gigabyt...-ga-g41mt-s2pt

and

http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/mpar...9C630BA5CA7304

That should sort me for a while and hopefully I can just swap the motherboard and everything will work :) ?

tizmeinnit 29-04-2012 13:38

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
yeah it should be a straight swap with a few drivers off the cd

pop80_uk 29-04-2012 15:55

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35420653)
yeah it should be a straight swap with a few drivers off the cd

Cool,
Im also buying a new case, should I get one specifically for a mATX or one which supports ATX as well

Are they phasing out ATX cards?

Im looking at the

Fractal:

Arc Midi Tower
Or
Arc Mini

Thanks;)

SnoopZ 29-04-2012 16:05

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Get a ATX case if you plan on using it with future builds.

tizmeinnit 29-04-2012 16:46

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35420730)
Get a ATX case if you plan on using it with future builds.


Agreed

ATX motherboards are still very much being used and will continue to be

qasdfdsaq 29-04-2012 17:12

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pop80_uk (Post 35420619)
Thats my problem really, the Gigabyte G31M-S2L only supports 4GB of RAM, I am more than happy with the other components, I could just use another 4GB of RAM and was hoping that I could just upgrade the Gigabyte G31M-S2L to a Gigabyte *Something* with no fuss.

I see no reason why it shouldn't take 8GB of RAM. Most motherboards lists these limitations simply because they were the most available when they were released.

thenry 29-04-2012 17:28

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
does it then depend on which bit OS you run to allow max RAM functioning?

jempalmer 29-04-2012 17:35

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
IIRC if you're using Windows then 64bit is required for the OS to "see" more than 3GB of RAM.

tizmeinnit 29-04-2012 18:41

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
to be totally pedantic its 4 gig but this includes cached memory as well as graphics memory plus pci address space etc

jempalmer 29-04-2012 18:47

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Yes, I checked after I posted. However, to use more than 4 gig you need 64bit Windows :)

pop80_uk 29-04-2012 18:57

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jempalmer (Post 35420825)
Yes, I checked after I posted. However, to use more than 4 gig you need 64bit Windows :)

I have Windows Pro 7 64bit so thats fine ;)

thenry 29-04-2012 18:57

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
yup MS limit for their own gain although its tech so theres bound to be a work around.

the official stuff of max RAM on W7 64 bit...

Starter: 8GB
Home Basic: 8GB
Home Premium: 16GB
Professional: 192GB
Enterprise: 192GB
Ultimate: 192GB

pop80_uk 29-04-2012 18:57

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
But that Motherboard can only take 4GB max, I made the expensive mistake of buying 8GB when I bought it, whoops!

tizmeinnit 29-04-2012 19:05

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35420830)
yup MS limit for their own gain although its tech so theres bound to be a work around.

the official stuff of max RAM on W7 64 bit...

Starter: 8GB
Home Basic: 8GB
Home Premium: 16GB
Professional: 192GB
Enterprise: 192GB
Ultimate: 192GB


I do not understand your point on the MS limit for its gain? X86 architecture has been around a long time and the 32bit limitations are not for anyones gain.

thenry 29-04-2012 19:07

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35420836)
I do not understand your point on the MS limit for its gain? X86 architecture has been around a long time and the 32bit limitations are not for anyones gain.

upgrade = more money and yes it is gain for MS.

pop80_uk 29-04-2012 19:07

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Just before I go shopping online, is it worth buying 8GB RAM again or should I just upgrade to the

Giga-Byte GA-G41MT-S2PT

SnoopZ 29-04-2012 19:08

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35420830)
yup MS limit for their own gain although its tech so theres bound to be a work around.

the official stuff of max RAM on W7 64 bit...

Starter: 8GB
Home Basic: 8GB
Home Premium: 16GB
Professional: 192GB
Enterprise: 192GB
Ultimate: 192GB

MS don't limit the memory for a 32bit operating system, whether it is linux or windows it can't address 4GB of RAM on a 32bit system.

They do limit it on on their 64bit versions of windows though but that is unrelated to the fact that 4GB of memory can't all be used on a 32bit OS.

DABhand 30-04-2012 09:33

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
I will also point out thenry that Starter edition does NOT have a 64 bit version only 32bit and is limited to 2GB.

thenry 30-04-2012 12:18

Re: Advice on PC upgrade from Gigabyte system
 
apologies, i took that from another site


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 16:04.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.