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Damien 27-06-2017 14:35

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Doesn't that show that when fake stories are printed they're easily discounted and withdrawn?

Mick 27-06-2017 14:54

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35905209)
Doesn't that show that when fake stories are printed they're easily discounted and withdrawn?

I do not think it has ever got to the stage where three journalist resign, all at once, at a well known branded news organisation.

But I have seen a video surface of a CNN producer caught on camera by project veritas, saying he thinks the Russia, Trump story is 'mostly total BS.'

CNN Producer caught saying things like,

'Trump is good for business, ratings are up.'

'CEO asked us to get back to the Russia narrative after covering Paris Accord issue for a day and half.'

'Even if Russia swung our elections, we swing theirs, our CIA is doing it all the time, we're out there trying to manipulate governments.'


pip08456 27-06-2017 14:57

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Nicely concluded Mick. Prepare for the backlash from the naysayers!

Damien 27-06-2017 15:27

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35905220)
I do not think it has ever got to the stage where three journalist resign, all at once, at a well known branded news organisation.

Well no but that's because this time they actually did print a bogus story and had to face the consequences. Proper journalists generally do not make up news. It doesn't occasionally happen, i.e totally fabrications, and they're fired or resigned when caught.

But not always which brings us too...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35905220)
But I have seen a video surface of a CNN producer caught on camera by project veritas, saying he thinks the Russia, Trump story is 'mostly total BS.'

Project Veritas. This guy has a known history for selective editing and distortion.

He has edited videos to make people look worse and taken out his part of the context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_...eos_.282009.29

Acorn:

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The videos were recorded during the summer of 2009 and appeared to show low-level ACORN employees in six cities providing advice to Giles and O'Keefe on how to avoid detection by authorities of tax evasion, human smuggling and child prostitution. He framed the undercover recordings with a preface of him dressed in a "pimp" outfit, which he also wore in TV media interviews. This gave viewers, including the media, the impression that he had dressed that way when speaking to ACORN workers. However, he actually entered the ACORN offices in conservative street clothes (the sleeve of his dress shirt is visible on camera). Furthermore, the ACORN employees involved reported his activities to the police after he left. O'Keefe selectively edited and manipulated his recordings of ACORN employees, as well as distorted the chronologies. Several journalists and media outlets have expressed regret for not properly scrutinizing and vetting his work.
NPR:

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On March 8, 2011, shortly before the US Congress was to vote on funding for National Public Radio (NPR), O'Keefe released a video of a discussion with Ronald Schiller, NPR's senior vice president for fundraising, and associate Betsy Liley. Raw content was secretly recorded by O'Keefe's partners Ken Larrey and Shaughn Adeleye.

Due to questions at the time about the video's authenticity, staff of The Blaze analyzed the edited portion and compared it with the raw videotape, both of which were released simultaneously. As blogger Scott Baker wrote, analysis of the full video showed that a portion was seemingly edited to intentionally lie or mislead. Much of the context of the conversation was changed and elements were transposed and chronology shifted.
So I would wait for the full video/story of his meeting with the CNN guy.

pip08456 27-06-2017 15:38

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35905228)
Well no but that's because this time they actually did print a bogus story and had to face the consequences. Proper journalists generally do not make up news. It doesn't occasionally happen, i.e totally fabrications, and they're fired or resigned when caught.

But not always which brings us too...



Project Veritas. This guy has a known history for selective editing and distortion.

He has edited videos to make people look worse and taken out his part of the context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_...eos_.282009.29

Acorn:



NPR:



So I would wait for the full video/story of his meeting with the CNN guy.

It's more than one story that has to have been retracted though. You missed that bit.;)

Damien 27-06-2017 15:41

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35905235)
It's more than one story that has to have been retracted though. You missed that bit.;)

The articles I saw mentioned only the single story that appeared on Thursday.

Mick 27-06-2017 15:54

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35905228)
Well no but that's because this time they actually did print a bogus story and had to face the consequences. Proper journalists generally do not make up news. It doesn't occasionally happen, i.e totally fabrications, and they're fired or resigned when caught.

But not always which brings us too...



Project Veritas. This guy has a known history for selective editing and distortion.

He has edited videos to make people look worse and taken out his part of the context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_...eos_.282009.29

Acorn:



NPR:



So I would wait for the full video/story of his meeting with the CNN guy.

I can see there is obvious editing but I cannot see how it can be denied that he (The CNN Producer), never said those things in the video, when he was asked specific questions, and even being quite flippant about News broadcasting ethics and that in his opinion, saying Russia swung the election, but we swing theirs.' and claiming the CIA manipulating foreign governments, i.e rig their elections.

Mr K 27-06-2017 16:04

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35905247)
I can see there is obvious editing but I cannot see how it can be denied that he (The CNN Producer), never said those things in the video, when he was asked specific questions, and even being quite flippant about News broadcasting ethics and that in his opinion, saying Russia swung the election, but we swing theirs.' and claiming the CIA manipulating foreign governments, i.e rig their elections.

It's fake news again Mick, gets everywhere.... CF should ban it.

pip08456 27-06-2017 16:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905258)
It's fake news again Mick, gets everywhere.... CF should ban it.

You mean CNN links Mr K????

Damien 27-06-2017 16:09

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35905247)
I can see there is obvious editing but I cannot see how it can be denied that he (The CNN Producer), never said those things in the video, when he was asked specific questions, and even being quite flippant about News broadcasting ethics and that in his opinion, saying Russia swung the election, but we swing theirs.' and claiming the CIA manipulating foreign governments, i.e rig their elections.

I think he probably said it. The swing elections thing isn't a unheard of view although if the US did swing Russian elections they're doing a poor job of it. :D

Mick 27-06-2017 16:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35905264)
I think he probably said it. The swing elections thing isn't a unheard of view although if the US did swing Russian elections they're doing a poor job of it. :D

Agreed! :p:

pip08456 27-06-2017 16:22

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35905264)
I think he probably said it. The swing elections thing isn't a unheard of view although if the US did swing Russian elections they're doing a poor job of it. :D

The point here is it's going to get worse. The youth of today rely on social media and that's where the opportunity exists to influence them.

It is like an accident waiting to happen and it will.

Mr K 02-07-2017 20:00

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Just when you think he can't do anything more stupid....

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The US President has tweeted a short video clip of him wrestling a person with the CNN logo for a head.
The clip is an altered version of Donald Trump's appearance at a WWE wrestling event in 2007, in which he "attacked" franchise owner Vince McMahon in a scripted appearance.
The animation appears to have been posted to a pro-Trump internet forum earlier in the week.
CNN later accused the president of inciting violence against the media.
One panellist on ABC's morning show, Ana Navarro - a Republican Trump critic and CNN contributor - said "it is an incitement to violence. He is going to get somebody killed in the media."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40474118

pip08456 02-07-2017 22:47

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905970)
Just when you think he can't do anything more stupid....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40474118

Please explain how Trump is responsible for this.

1andrew1 02-07-2017 23:02

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35905992)
Please explain how Trump is responsible for this.

From the linked article:"The US President has tweeted...


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