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Gstevie 04-07-2013 20:56
Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Hey guys just wondering if anyone else in the Uddingston area has their 2 upstream and 8 downstream channels? I noticed a few days ago and then looked on the double speed page but still sitting at November for the 120 upgrade. Anyone in this area had any luck getting an early extra boost?

Jumping 04-07-2013 21:24
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Think you might be the first, I'm in ML2 and I just got 6DS the other week and I'm still on 1US.

broadbandking 04-07-2013 21:30
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by weegrim (Post 35591993)
Hey guys just wondering if anyone else in the Uddingston area has their 2 upstream and 8 downstream channels? I noticed a few days ago and then looked on the double speed page but still sitting at November for the 120 upgrade. Anyone in this area had any luck getting an early extra boost?
You won't get an early upgrade until VM release it in your area as for the two upstreams that just preping your area for the upgrade and I suppose to help with congestion.

Gstevie 04-07-2013 21:34
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Seems strange they would have Coatbridge updated and still have people just down the road on the same UBR not done, is that standard? It defo seems done on mine. I had 8 downstream channels for a while now too, at least 2 months if not more.

Upstream
US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A 2.0
Channel ID 2 N/A N/A 1
Frequency (Hz) 27400000 N/A N/A 35800000
Ranging Status Success Other Other Success
Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A 16QAM
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 N/A N/A 5120000
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A 4
Power Level (dBmV) 43.75 N/A N/A 43.75
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0

Martin_D 05-07-2013 00:15
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Not long now :)

---------- Post added at 00:15 ---------- Previous post was at 00:03 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by weegrim (Post 35592020)
Seems strange they would have Coatbridge updated and still have people just down the road on the same UBR not done, is that standard? It defo seems done on mine. I had 8 downstream channels for a while now too, at least 2 months if not more.

Upstream
US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A 2.0
Channel ID 2 N/A N/A 1
Frequency (Hz) 27400000 N/A N/A 35800000
Ranging Status Success Other Other Success
Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A 16QAM
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 N/A N/A 5120000
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A 4
Power Level (dBmV) 43.75 N/A N/A 43.75
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
Can you post the host info from the link http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/mi...?do=connection Ty

Martin_D 05-07-2013 03:45
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by weegrim (Post 35592020)
Seems strange they would have Coatbridge updated and still have people just down the road on the same UBR not done, is that standard? It defo seems done on mine. I had 8 downstream channels for a while now too, at least 2 months if not more.

Upstream
US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A 2.0
Channel ID 2 N/A N/A 1
Frequency (Hz) 27400000 N/A N/A 35800000
Ranging Status Success Other Other Success
Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A 16QAM
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 N/A N/A 5120000
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A 4
Power Level (dBmV) 43.75 N/A N/A 43.75
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
They may be on the same UBR as you be thay will be on a different CTM

Gstevie 05-07-2013 08:18
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35592069)
Not long now :)

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Can you post the host info from the link http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/mi...?do=connection Ty
Yeah sure:
Host cpc3-uddi24-2-0-cust328.20-3.cable.virginmedia.com

Martin_D 07-07-2013 17:09
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by weegrim (Post 35592113)
Yeah sure:
Host cpc3-uddi24-2-0-cust328.20-3.cable.virginmedia.com

thank you :) Do you have a Broadband Quality Monitor


http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/monitors.html

Gstevie 07-07-2013 17:30
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35593038)
thank you :) Do you have a Broadband Quality Monitor


http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/monitors.html
Not had it on for a few days since I swapped from Router Mode to Modem Mode. Iv been switching periodically part of the Superhub 2 trial. But Iv set it up again, the last one I have is this one from the 20th of June:

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

I have set up a new one and I will post it tomorrow.

Martin_D 07-07-2013 18:05
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by weegrim (Post 35593048)
Not had it on for a few days since I swapped from Router Mode to Modem Mode. Iv been switching periodically part of the Superhub 2 trial. But Iv set it up again, the last one I have is this one from the 20th of June:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...20-06-2013.png

I have set up a new one and I will post it tomorrow.
Thank You

Still just on 1 Upstream

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/07/41.png

Gstevie 08-07-2013 13:14
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
This is my latest chart:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...08-07-2013.png

I think part of the early am - 1am ish spike will be sickbeard kicking in.

Jumping 10-07-2013 10:23
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Well ML2 has now followed ML5 and I'm now on 2 US.

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

Code:
Upstream          US-1        US-2        US-3        US-4
Channel Type        2.0        2.0        N/A        N/A
Channel ID        4        5        N/A        N/A
Frequency (Hz)        35800000 Hz        27400000 Hz        N/A        N/A
Ranging Status        Success        Success        N/A        N/A
Modulation        QAM16        QAM16        N/A        N/A
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec)        5120000        5120000        N/A        N/A
Mini-Slot Size        128        128        N/A        N/A
Power Level (dBmV)        46.0 dBmV        45.3 dBmV        N/A        N/A
T1 Timeouts        0        0        N/A        N/A
T2 Timeouts        0        0        N/A        N/A
T3 Timeouts        4        4        N/A        N/A
T4 Timeouts        3        3        N/A        N/A
Hopefully that means we will get the US upgrade, I wonder if it is coincidence that FTTC is now suppose to start rolling out here in September.

Martin_D 10-07-2013 12:14
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Still on one :(

---------- Post added at 12:14 ---------- Previous post was at 10:53 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35593778)
Well ML2 has now followed ML5 and I'm now on 2 US.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-07-2013.png

Code:
Upstream          US-1        US-2        US-3        US-4
Channel Type        2.0        2.0        N/A        N/A
Channel ID        4        5        N/A        N/A
Frequency (Hz)        35800000 Hz        27400000 Hz        N/A        N/A
Ranging Status        Success        Success        N/A        N/A
Modulation        QAM16        QAM16        N/A        N/A
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec)        5120000        5120000        N/A        N/A
Mini-Slot Size        128        128        N/A        N/A
Power Level (dBmV)        46.0 dBmV        45.3 dBmV        N/A        N/A
T1 Timeouts        0        0        N/A        N/A
T2 Timeouts        0        0        N/A        N/A
T3 Timeouts        4        4        N/A        N/A
T4 Timeouts        3        3        N/A        N/A
Hopefully that means we will get the US upgrade, I wonder if it is coincidence that FTTC is now suppose to start rolling out here in September.

Can you post the host info from the link http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/mi...?do=connection Ty

Jumping 10-07-2013 12:21
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Sure thing:
Quote:
cpc17-uddi20-2-0-custxxx.xx-x.cable.virginmedia.com

Martin_D 10-07-2013 12:32
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
thank you :)

Martin_D 11-07-2013 09:38
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Well ML3 has 2 US. BUT

Look at it :(
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/07/41.png
Quote:
Upstream
US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A 2.0
Channel ID 2 N/A N/A 1
Frequency (Hz) 27400000 N/A N/A 35800000
Ranging Status Success N/A N/A Success
Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A 16QAM
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 N/A N/A 5120000
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A 4
Power Level (dBmV) 44.25 N/A N/A 44.25
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 1 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/07/42.png

Jumping 11-07-2013 12:51
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
My graph is really nice and smooth a little bit better than when it was on 1US

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-07-2013.png

Martin_D 11-07-2013 13:09
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
The speed is very good the ping is 19ms -23ms but my graph is really up & down :(

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/07/40.png

Gstevie 11-07-2013 22:57
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35594060)
The speed is very good the ping is 19ms -23ms but my graph is really up & down :(

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/07/40.png
Ur graphs do not seem to be showing up for me. I hope ur signal gets butter. But I am getting a really reliable connection and constant speeds. Hopefully being on 2 up streams means that we are getting closer to the big day! ;)

Martin_D 12-07-2013 12:02
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by weegrim (Post 35594252)
Ur graphs do not seem to be showing up for me. I hope ur signal gets butter. But I am getting a really reliable connection and constant speeds. Hopefully being on 2 up streams means that we are getting closer to the big day! ;)
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/07/38.png


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/07/39.png

Jumping 12-07-2013 15:01
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
What happened at about 13:30? Your minimum latency jumped up slightly after that brief spell of packet loss.

Martin_D 12-07-2013 15:07
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35594415)
What happened at about 13:30? Your minimum latency jumped up slightly after that brief spell of packet loss.

Look like a bug in my SH2 Firmware causing the minimum latency gone up

Attachment 24759

Martin_D 14-07-2013 23:50
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Looking at all the data for the last 3 days Upstream Channel Bonding has made my connection slower

Attachment 24766

craigj2k12 15-07-2013 03:58
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
they must have bonded a low usage channel with a congested one, shame they arent actually adding any capacity

Martin_D 17-07-2013 06:22
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Virgin doing more work :)

Attachment 24771



Now on 2 new Upstreams - Still look like am on a congested Upstream :(

Attachment 24770

horseman 17-07-2013 08:14
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35596039)
….
Now on 2 new Upstreams - …..
Interesting new channel plan? Now 2 upstreams with only a 200kHz guard band between them. That could possibly yield another cf at 24.4MHz and also at cf 44.2MHz which could yield 4 channels where the previous 3 (27.4/35.8/45.8) occupied almost the same portion of return RF spectrum? Also seen 57.4MHz(?) on similiar (original 3 ) channel plan elsewhere.

Martin_D 17-07-2013 10:01
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by horseman (Post 35596043)
Interesting new channel plan? Now 2 upstreams with only a 200kHz guard band between them. That could possibly yield another cf at 24.4MHz and also at cf 44.2MHz which could yield 4 channels where the previous 3 (27.4/35.8/45.8) occupied almost the same portion of return RF spectrum? Also seen 57.4MHz(?) on similiar (original 3 ) channel plan elsewhere.
So am on the same US they have just been moved to a new Frequency :confused:

Jumping 18-07-2013 11:13
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Noticed I have been moved to the same.

Quote:
US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 2.0 N/A N/A
Channel ID 5 4 N/A N/A
Frequency (Hz) 31000000 Hz 37600000 Hz N/A N/A
Ranging Status Success Success N/A N/A
Modulation QAM16 QAM16 N/A N/A
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 5120000 N/A N/A
Mini-Slot Size 128 128 N/A N/A
Power Level (dBmV) 45.0 dBmV 45.8 dBmV N/A N/A
T1 Timeouts 0 0 N/A N/A
T2 Timeouts 0 0 N/A N/A
T3 Timeouts 0 0 N/A N/A
T4 Timeouts 0 0 N/A N/A
Last week when I was upgraded I was on 3580000Hz & 2740000Hz
Graph is still nice and smooth looking I noticed a bit of packetloss the other day so that was probably when they swapped my channels.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/07/9.png

Martin_D 20-07-2013 22:46
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35596496)
Noticed I have been moved to the same.



Last week when I was upgraded I was on 3580000Hz & 2740000Hz
Graph is still nice and smooth looking I noticed a bit of packetloss the other day so that was probably when they swapped my channels.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/07/9.png
What happened at about 10:00pm?

Jumping 20-07-2013 22:57
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Hmm not sure I guess I could be STMed...as its been getting worse and was getting some stuff and was streaming the Moto GP qualifying.

Martin_D 28-07-2013 19:14
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35596496)
Noticed I have been moved to the same.



Last week when I was upgraded I was on 3580000Hz & 2740000Hz
Graph is still nice and smooth looking I noticed a bit of packetloss the other day so that was probably when they swapped my channels.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/07/9.png

Not looking to good today :/

Gstevie 28-07-2013 19:32
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35600781)
Not looking to good today :/
Not quite as bad as what you are getting there but seeing some upset here too. (red was me turning off the modem for a wee bit just to see if any changes occurred no other reason)

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

Martin_D 28-07-2013 19:36
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by weegrim (Post 35600785)
Not quite as bad as what you are getting there but seeing some upset here too. (red was me turning off the modem for a wee bit just to see if any changes occurred no other reason)

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...28-07-2013.png

This is mine

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/07/8.png

Jumping 28-07-2013 21:39
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Been using the connection again today :) you can see when I stopped and its going back to normal graph.

Might add most of the bad stuff is due to the STM kicking in and me still using the line :P

Martin_D 02-08-2013 00:38
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
not long now :)

Attachment 24818

Gstevie 03-08-2013 00:56
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35604376)
not long now :)

Attachment 24818
Positive step forward! Firmware 26 loaded yesterday and now that schedule moving up, hopefully we see it sooner! :-D

Jumping 03-08-2013 09:45
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Wonder if its coincidence but FTTC has a live date of September too in my area....tbh im more looking forward to my upload to get to 12 than download to 120 as that extra 20mbit down really not gonna make much difference to me as im usually wireless or using powerline adapters.

Rabb 05-08-2013 11:07
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
read this and checked mine, last few months been Sept-november for upgrade, now September. finally getting somewhere. as a good few towns & cities have this for ages now.
thanks for info :)

Gstevie 07-08-2013 18:22
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabb (Post 35606053)
read this and checked mine, last few months been Sept-november for upgrade, now September. finally getting somewhere. as a good few towns & cities have this for ages now.
thanks for info :)
Yeah the once 1st for every upgrade Uddingston area now finally catching up with the rest.

The upstream is what I'm looking forward too as well but not gonna lie every small increase in STM allowance with this crazy new system, il take it!!

Martin_D 16-08-2013 23:42
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Now getting packloss :(

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2905326735


http://www.pingtest.net/result/85131658.png

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...6-08-2013.html

Martin_D 17-08-2013 08:47
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
My tivo is now changing channels on its own :shocked:

Jumping 17-08-2013 14:23
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Sounds like your area having some issues then, for what is worth my area is fine so its not affecting the whole Uddingston UBR catch area.

Gstevie 17-08-2013 15:00
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35611352)
My tivo is now changing channels on its own :shocked:
I seem to be ok too.
Have u gotten better results?

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...17-08-2013.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/08/21.png Maybe a bias test being on VirginMedia server.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/08/22.png Independent test to make sure.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/08/23.png

Jumping 17-08-2013 15:16
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Weegrim could you try and do a speedtest on the Preston site? Just curious to see if its as good for you when it comes to latency.

Gstevie 17-08-2013 15:19
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35611593)
Weegrim could you try and do a speedtest on the Preston site? Just curious to see if its as good for you when it comes to latency.
Yeah sure thing, not a problem:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/08/20.png

I like this wee Uddingston sub group we have going here :)

Jumping 17-08-2013 15:26
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Similar ping to what I get seems Preston is a good site to test to must be good routing to there.

Will be interesting to see if our ping goes down once they open the Edinbugh LINX peering should be good not to have to go through England all the time...

This is my test to Preston on wireless.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/08/19.png

Gstevie 17-08-2013 19:36
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
My tests there were done via Ethernet, the only wireless devices I have are iPhones, iPads ect.

That will be interesting to see. Any clue when that's meant to happen?

Jumping 17-08-2013 19:52
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
I'm not sure, I should be able to find out as it will be hosted in one of the datacenters that the company I work for have.

Don't think its that far away to be honest which is good.

Martin_D 17-08-2013 22:27
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35611802)
I'm not sure, I should be able to find out as it will be hosted in one of the datacenters that the company I work for have.

Don't think its that far away to be honest which is good.
So does this mean that all the traffic from Uddingston will go through Edinburgh and not England. :)

Jumping 17-08-2013 22:58
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35611857)
So does this mean that all the traffic from Uddingston will go through Edinburgh and not England. :)
Well a lot of the traffic if Virgin's routing behaves as it should it should then go through Edinburgh out to the world which should save having to do down to London etc. Happy routing days indeed!

Martin_D 17-08-2013 23:10
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
How did you find out about it. ?

Jumping 18-08-2013 00:05
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
As I said I work for the company where it will go through.

If you google for Internet exchange Scotland you can find a bit more information about it.

Here is a pretty good read on it http://blogs.scotland.gov.uk/digital...-for-scotland/

Martin_D 18-08-2013 00:17
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35611890)
As I said I work for the company where it will go through.

If you google for Internet exchange Scotland you can find a bit more information about it.

Here is a pretty good read on it http://blogs.scotland.gov.uk/digital...-for-scotland/
That was very interesting thank for the link

Gstevie 18-08-2013 00:50
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35611890)
As I said I work for the company where it will go through.

If you google for Internet exchange Scotland you can find a bit more information about it.

Here is a pretty good read on it http://blogs.scotland.gov.uk/digital...-for-scotland/
Thanks, good read.

Martin_D 18-08-2013 06:37
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
So if i have got this right LINX will instill it's equipment in a up & running data center at your work Jumping. So lets say IXScotland goes live September will virgin move straight onto it or will they wait for a couple of months.


Sorry if this is a stupid question :dunce:

Jumping 18-08-2013 10:09
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
I know Virgin is already involved with it as most big internet companies are. So im hoping Virgin will have their routing setup for it as soon as it goes live....but we are talking about Virgin here :dozey:

craigj2k12 18-08-2013 16:47
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35611916)
IXScotland
SINX rolls off the tongue better

---------- Post added at 16:47 ---------- Previous post was at 16:46 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35611946)
I know Virgin is already involved with it as most big internet companies are. So im hoping Virgin will have their routing setup for it as soon as it goes live....but we are talking about Virgin here :dozey:
Virgin and routing tend not to go together very well

qasdfdsaq 18-08-2013 22:12
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35611600)
Similar ping to what I get seems Preston is a good site to test to must be good routing to there.
Preston is good for VM customers because it's hosted on VM's own network, and a relatively decent part of it too.

---------- Post added at 22:02 ---------- Previous post was at 22:00 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35611600)
Will be interesting to see if our ping goes down once they open the Edinbugh LINX peering should be good not to have to go through England all the time...
WTF is Edinburgh LINX? LINX is London Internet eXchange. London is not in Edinburgh.

---------- Post added at 22:07 ---------- Previous post was at 22:02 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35611916)
So if i have got this right LINX will instill it's equipment in a up & running data center at your work Jumping. So lets say IXScotland goes live September will virgin move straight onto it or will they wait for a couple of months.
We already have a major IXP in Scotland and Virgin already connect to it, as do most other major ISPs.

Chances are if they build a new one, it'll be right next to the old one, which also happens to be right next VM's biggest datacentre in Scotland anyway. I doubt they'll take much time to "move straight onto it" when they're already sat next door.

Then again everything VM does around here is either slow or to save money, and this doesn't save them much money so go figure...

---------- Post added at 22:09 ---------- Previous post was at 22:07 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35612190)
Virgin and routing tend not to go together very well
Hah.

Indeed, VM has had interconnects in Scotland with all the major providers for years and yet uses none of them for consumer broadband.

---------- Post added at 22:12 ---------- Previous post was at 22:09 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35611865)
Well a lot of the traffic if Virgin's routing behaves as it should it should then go through Edinburgh out to the world which should save having to do down to London etc. Happy routing days indeed!
There's very little "the world" reachable from Edinburgh for any data to go. The only traffic that VM would benefit from sending over the link is to central and northern Scotland, which bluntly speaking, contains nothing of internetery significance.

For all other traffic, it is of benefit to VM to keep it on their own network as far as possible, which means taking it down to London or Amsterdam internally and routing it out from there.

Even at the biggest Scottish universities - the biggest non-ISP data carriers around, with thousands of internal servers and a captive audience - you'd be surprised how little traffic actually goes or stays anywhere near Scotland.

Jumping 22-08-2013 22:14
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Bought a new router chepo Tenda N60 to be able to get some 5Ghz seems to work pretty well with my new wireless card that can do 2.4Ghz & 5Ghz.

Unfortunately I seem to been moved to different upstream channels during the tinkering and my IP changed from 80. something to 213.x.x.x need to try and force myself back to upstream channel 1 & 2 instead of 4&5 as the new graph isn't as good and smooth.

Kushan 23-08-2013 09:01
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
It might not help with the upstreams, but you may be able to get your old IP back by changing the MAC address on the Tenda to the MAC address your old router was using.

Jumping 23-08-2013 16:41
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Seems its pretty good on the different US and the new IP... :D

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/08/11.png

Now just need them to get this 120mbit upgrade finished!

Martin_D 23-08-2013 19:32
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Hope it soon :)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/08/10.png

Jumping 23-08-2013 19:44
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
At least you already have 10mbit upload, thats what im mostly wanting the extra 20mbit down doesn't really matter to me.

Jumping 25-08-2013 15:37
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Hmm that Tenda N-60 wasn't behaving only got 20mbit wired speed so its gone back in the box, have ordered an Asus rt-n56u hopefully I can get my money back for the Tenda.

This is the graph with the old router back on the old 80.x.x.x IP

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...25-08-2013.png

Very smooth looking grap the spikes from yesterday was when I was using the line.

Jumping 28-08-2013 17:37
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
My new Asus RT-N56U just arrived got it configured and its speedy all the time both wireless and wired! Happy days, quite funny I get more speed wireless as Dell only put a 100mbit nic in.

Got a different IP again with the new router
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/08/7.png

Still seems the SHUB is stuck on using channel 4 & 5 on US instead of the 1 & 2 I got moved on to previously.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/08/8.png

Happy with this router and for me didn't need to get the n66 as don't have the need for it and next upgrade will be to 802.11ac.

Forgot just need the 120mbit to be rolled out now hopefully the September date is true unfortunately it will probably be neared the end than the start of the month.

Kushan 28-08-2013 18:25
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Glad it's working out for you, it's an awesome router! You can probably get your old IP back by changing the MAC address to match the old one but if you're happy enough then don't bother.

Gstevie 28-08-2013 18:34
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Glad you have it up and running with good results. Iv been on UP channels 2 & 3 for a while now and have had good results. Can't say Iv ever been on channels 4 or 5 that I ever noticed.

Thats also a very sleek bit of kit you bought.

Same for myself, the next upgrade will be to .ac but I cannot see that for a while yet, like you say we will be held to the 30th Sep before the uplift here - most likely, and if the rumoured 200Mb/s is next current hardware will be more than sufficient can't personally see VM going near the 1 Gigabit mark for a good while yet! :-p

Martin_D 28-08-2013 19:02
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
FTTC Is Now available in my area yay ;)

Attachment 24872

So do i stay or go ??

Jumping 28-08-2013 19:33
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35615728)
FTTC Is Now available in my area yay ;)

Attachment 24872

So do i stay or go ??

I thought Hamilton had the FTTC rollout completed ages ago.

Martin_D 28-08-2013 19:42
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35615745)
I thought Hamilton had the FTTC rollout completed ages ago.
Yes the Hamilton Exchange was completed ages ago. but am on the Blantyre Exchange.

Kushan 28-08-2013 20:14
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
What site are you using for that?

Martin_D 28-08-2013 20:19
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
I get all my info on 3 sites :

http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/AD....AddressOutput

http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/where-and-when/

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/WSBLA

Jumping 28-08-2013 20:26
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Well the BT checker has March 2014 for FTTC and these stats

Code:

Availability Date

Featured Products
WBC FTTC        Up to 80        Up to 20        --        31-Mar-14
WBC ADSL 2+        Up to 17        --        10 to 19.5        Available
WBC ADSL 2+ Annex M        Up to 17        Up to 1.5        10 to 19.5        Available
ADSL Max        Up to 7.5        --        6.5 to 8        Available
WBC Fixed Rate        2        --        --        Available
Fixed Rate        2        --        --        Available
Other Offerings
Fibre Multicast        --        --        --        31-Mar-14
The fttc checker says September coming soon to be honest its moved forward so the BT one prolly just never been updated. So have September for 120mbit from Virgin and FTTC...coincidence? Don't think so :P

Kushan 28-08-2013 21:09
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Thanks! that's exactly what I needed!

Gstevie 28-08-2013 23:27
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
There has defo been a shake up with the schedule there. I checked those sites not 2 months ago and they all had Coatbridge down for 2015 at one point with some 2014 reports. Now they are saying end of 2013, that's some coincidence.

I can't say I'm really of the mind to switch from VM because my connection (touch wood) has been solid and I can't really say iv been let down by it apart from STM. I get a really good deal with VM just now and to sacrifice that for a reduction in speed just to bypass STM would be a waste of money in the long run when u really look Into it I think. What I am hoping is that this is the wake up call VM has been needing and if they see this competition building more and more we might just see some better treatment this side of the grass.

Jumping 28-08-2013 23:33
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Yeah both my dates for Virgin 120mbit and the FTTC moved from end of the year till September.

Always good with competition imho! Considering going back to sky as feel Virgin is a bit expensive especially on the call front.

Gstevie 29-08-2013 00:01
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35615880)
Yeah both my dates for Virgin 120mbit and the FTTC moved from end of the year till September.

Always good with competition imho! Considering going back to sky as feel Virgin is a bit expensive especially on the call front.
If I wasn't getting a great discount on the package I have with VM then I would probably look into switching more seriously. I must admit the phone line I have is really just sitting there, apart from the occasional call which is included into the package it's not used, all calls are done via mobile.

What I'm enjoying from this is the healthy competition, much overdue that could come from it. I may be totally wrong, but I have a funny feeling that something is gonna be pulled out the bag from VM by the end of the year start of next.

Jumping 29-08-2013 16:55
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Yeah Im thinking once FTTC is actually live its time to see what retentions can offer, currently got the virgin in the missus name so could try and get a new customer deal option too.

Call costs are really bad tho especially as I phone abroad quite often and man its bad costs.

bubblegun 30-08-2013 04:46
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gstevie (Post 35615878)
There has defo been a shake up with the schedule there. I checked those sites not 2 months ago and they all had Coatbridge down for 2015 at one point with some 2014 reports. Now they are saying end of 2013, that's some coincidence.

I can't say I'm really of the mind to switch from VM because my connection (touch wood) has been solid and I can't really say iv been let down by it apart from STM. I get a really good deal with VM just now and to sacrifice that for a reduction in speed just to bypass STM would be a waste of money in the long run when u really look Into it I think. What I am hoping is that this is the wake up call VM has been needing and if they see this competition building more and more we might just see some better treatment this side of the grass.
Don't you read the news? <sarcasm>

The roll-out of Fibre (FTTC) in lots of areas of Scotland was brought forward earlier this year.

I believe the Scottish (SNP) government bunged them a wad of money to do this, for example East Kilbride where I live switched from Labour to SNP at the last Scottish parliament election. Suspicious?

Jumping 30-08-2013 20:52
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Loaded Padawan's alternative firmware on the Asus RT-N56U bad boy and it seems to be slightly faster than Asus latests firmware

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/08/2.png

Happy days indeed! Now come on Virgin give me 133/12 pretty please.

Martin_D 01-09-2013 23:27
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Anyone else in Uddingston not being hit with STM i done 10Gb just before 6pm and i did not get STM

Gstevie 02-09-2013 00:09
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35617338)
Anyone else in Uddingston not being hit with STM i done 10Gb just before 6pm and i did not get STM
I have heard someone else mention that about some other places on VM's board but iv not tried it out myself the past day or so as last week i was using Netflix in full 1080p and I got hit with STM. But I will try tomorrow after 4pm and see what happens. Hope we are on to a winner! :D praise the baby jesbus!!

Also did read on the forum from one of the mods that said STM removal was not being piloted in any areas - hope that is just to throw people off the scent.

Martin_D 02-09-2013 13:54
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
I just started getting Post RS Errors will this affect my connection. :) Ty

Attachment 24880

Gstevie 02-09-2013 14:58
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35617512)
I just started getting Post RS Errors will this affect my connection. :) Ty

Attachment 24880
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...8126452-vm.png

I hope not as I seem to have quite a few of them and my connection seems to be running great!

Gstevie 02-09-2013 15:10
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
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After a fresh restart I get this:

Gstevie 02-09-2013 18:42
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35617338)
Anyone else in Uddingston not being hit with STM i done 10Gb just before 6pm and i did not get STM
Well I do not want to jinks it but STM should most definitely have kicked in with the "testing" I have done since 5pm to now and I can say that I seem to not be having it applied to my connection. Best news in a long time! Thanks for the heads up Martin Dee!! :)

Martin_D 03-09-2013 13:34
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Uddingston now set to get 120/12 in October :(

Attachment 24886

Martin_D 03-09-2013 14:03
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Look what i just got. I just phoned thinking of leaving us people and he put me on it :)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/09/29.png

Attachment 24888

Rabb 03-09-2013 14:17
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35618071)
Look what i just got. I just phoned thinking of leaving us people and he put me on it :)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/09/29.png

Attachment 24888
w2g m8, after reading about October, was here we go again always the last, when rest have had from last year :( :(
called up, got a big no no. piratically told me i was lying to him as know one in our area is on 120 mb yet. so looks like need to w8 till october.
not going the leaving part, as have just got deal with wife working there now.
gotta h8 virgin the way they run these upgrades, SAME CROWD always last:mad::mad:

Gstevie 03-09-2013 15:29
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35618071)
Look what i just got. I just phoned thinking of leaving us people and he put me on it :)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/09/29.png

Attachment 24888
Must really like you! I called got an Asian call centre who said he "could do it" but wouldn't because it "would cause problems" then I called back 20 mins later and an American guy told me that no it wasn't showing as available on either of the 2 systems they use and when I asked if he could try he said no it wouldn't work. Ahh well I will call in a couple of days and see what happens.

Jumping 03-09-2013 18:31
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Ohh well think might have to get a call in - partner is not happy with the Virgin bills so think a threat about leaving might be in place to get lower bills and upgraded to 120mbit.

Martin_D 03-09-2013 18:43
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
That what i done to get it. :)

Martin_D 05-09-2013 03:42
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
So been on 120 for about 2 days now and its working ok

Attachment 24890

Attachment 24889

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.2.9200]
(c) 2012 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Martin>tracert www.bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.246.90]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

One thing i have noticed is that the sh2 will not respond to a Traceroute it just sends a Request timed out

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms router.asus.com [192.168.1.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 81 ms 8 ms 9 ms uddi-geam-1b-ge923.network.virginmedia.net [62.2
52.47.245]
4 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms uddi-core-1b-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [80.3
.16.141]
5 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms uddi-core-1a-ge-100-0.network.virginmedia.net [8
0.3.16.65]
6 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms leed-bb-1a-as10-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.1
05.159.70]
7 15 ms 14 ms 13 ms leed-bb-1b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253
.187.186]
8 19 ms 18 ms 17 ms nrth-bb-1b-et-400-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.
253.175.46]
9 19 ms 18 ms 18 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.
174.18]
10 20 ms 20 ms 18 ms pos6-1.rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.237]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ae0.er01.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.93]
13 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms 132.185.255.164
14 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms bbc-vip011.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.246.90]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Martin>

Martin_D 05-09-2013 05:36
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35612352)
Preston is good for VM customers because it's hosted on VM's own network, and a relatively decent part of it too.

---------- Post added at 22:02 ---------- Previous post was at 22:00 ----------


WTF is Edinburgh LINX? LINX is London Internet eXchange. London is not in Edinburgh.

---------- Post added at 22:07 ---------- Previous post was at 22:02 ----------


We already have a major IXP in Scotland and Virgin already connect to it, as do most other major ISPs.

Chances are if they build a new one, it'll be right next to the old one, which also happens to be right next VM's biggest datacentre in Scotland anyway. I doubt they'll take much time to "move straight onto it" when they're already sat next door.

Then again everything VM does around here is either slow or to save money, and this doesn't save them much money so go figure...

---------- Post added at 22:09 ---------- Previous post was at 22:07 ----------


Hah.

Indeed, VM has had interconnects in Scotland with all the major providers for years and yet uses none of them for consumer broadband.

---------- Post added at 22:12 ---------- Previous post was at 22:09 ----------


There's very little "the world" reachable from Edinburgh for any data to go. The only traffic that VM would benefit from sending over the link is to central and northern Scotland, which bluntly speaking, contains nothing of internetery significance.

For all other traffic, it is of benefit to VM to keep it on their own network as far as possible, which means taking it down to London or Amsterdam internally and routing it out from there.

Even at the biggest Scottish universities - the biggest non-ISP data carriers around, with thousands of internal servers and a captive audience - you'd be surprised how little traffic actually goes or stays anywhere near Scotland.

I was reading a story that when IXScotland goes live and providers like vm/bt/ join it. It would help bring the ping time down in scotland. is this a lot of lies or will this happen

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2013/02/scotland-planning-to-build-its-own-internet-exchange-for-isps.html

John Souter, CEO of LINX, said (Scotsman):

“The biggest difference users will see is in terms of what is called “latency” – the time lapse which can cause gaps – like a pause in conversation. The less distance information has to travel the less problem there is with latency.

This is very important to games players, where low 
latency is critical, as well as Skype and other voice services and anything where there are transactions such as banking services.”

Kushan 05-09-2013 12:34
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35618696)
I was reading a story that when IXScotland goes live and providers like vm/bt/ join it. It would help bring the ping time down in scotland. is this a lot of lies or will this happen

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...-for-isps.html

John Souter, CEO of LINX, said (Scotsman):

“The biggest difference users will see is in terms of what is called “latency” – the time lapse which can cause gaps – like a pause in conversation. The less distance information has to travel the less problem there is with latency.

This is very important to games players, where low 
latency is critical, as well as Skype and other voice services and anything where there are transactions such as banking services.”
It should definitely be an improvement for you guys. Hard to say how much by, but the idea is pretty simple: At the moment if you try to connect to (say) a server in London, you have to bounce through a bunch of different peering sites around the country. Now it's pretty fast, but each "hop" is going to add a small amount of delay, possibly even a sub-1ms delay but a delay none the less. I think the idea is that Scotland would have a hub that's connected directly to London (And likely other places, like Manchester and possibly some other places around the world), shaving off a few valuable ms depending on what you're connecting to.

Jumping 05-09-2013 15:34
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
It will have direct peering with other countries, I think New York and Holland probably some more.

I wasn't aware of any other IX in Scotland, and I said Edinburgh Linx cause the Linx people are highly involved but then again mr grumpy was extra grumpy that day :D

The key thing though is that they configure the traffic to go through it and it should help with latency for Scotland.

Martin_D 11-09-2013 13:35
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Was just having conversation with one of virgin network people he has been working on the cabinet outside our house for 2 days. he said he was doing Noise control for a upgrade on the Upstream from 16 to 64 ?. So does this just let them have more Upstream ??

To be honest i had no idea what he was saying all a bit too technical for me LOL :)

Had 3 outages yesterday

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-09-2013.png

Still looks the same
Attachment 24901

Kushan 11-09-2013 13:54
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
QAM16 to QAM64, I believe seph has talked about this a few times. At a basic level, it gives each channel more bandwidth to play with but the side effect is that it's more prone to noise (hence the noise control). It's a good thing!

horseman 12-09-2013 17:41
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35620727)
…... he said he was doing Noise control for a upgrade on the Upstream from 16 to 64 ?. …...
To be honest i had no idea what he was saying all a bit too technical for me LOL :)

Had 3 outages yesterday…..
If he still around ask him how many amps are in your cascade chain and whether he working down the chain from the o/e FN node on his own or with help?

The outages may well be the work he's already doing (or a colleague) upstream.

You appear to already have the new channel plan with 4 possible upstream 6.4MHz RF with 200khz guard bands (24.4, 31.0 , 36.6, 43.2) in space of 3 typical existing centre frequencies (27.4, 35.8, 45.8, ) previously.
Theoretically I think you could get 6 x 6.4MHz x QAM64 channels from 17.8MHz thru 59.8MHz based on those centre frequencies just before replacing legacy 5-55MHz DOCSIS Bidi amps to accommodate the (euro)DOCSIS3.0 (5-85MHz) upstream spec and expanding upstream capacity further.

However VM may be trying to defer replacement amps in order to accommodate wide bandwidth DOCSIS3.1 amps for OFDM with bottom,mid and top band splits. Replacing all UK (or large proportion of legacy Gerold) equipment is not something you leap into without significant planning and you certainly don't want to do it twice in as many years (usually only within 2 decades or more if you can stretch it)! ;)

These things can therefore take significant time….(DOCSIS3.1) OFDM is still probably a a couple of years away yet from practical commercial quantities at least? :(

I also suspect VM will want to leapfrog from current 8x4 DOCSIS tuner to 24x8 channels and by-pass Puma6 and Broadcom equivalents before trialling a SuperHub 4 version. Interesting times…..

Gstevie 12-09-2013 20:09
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
I sure as don't have friends at Virgin Media, still not letting me upgrade! :td:

Tried the whole "ohh could you try sending the file to the modem for me?" and got shot down apparently there is no option on the system for him to do that! Ahh well looks like end of October (or what ever they extend it to after that passes) for me!


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