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thenarth 01-03-2012 12:38

Re: Westminster Cable TV closing but what about the hidden telephone service?
 
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35390980)
Maybe VM has had enough of BT and is building their own system in a market that could be profitable for them!

It may be coincidence, but our local exchange 'Lords' is being provisioned with BT Infinity in May, so it looks like VM may be trying to get in ahead of BT.

Alan Fry 01-03-2012 13:06

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Originally Posted by thenarth (Post 35391037)
It may be coincidence, but our local exchange 'Lords' is being provisioned with BT Infinity in May, so it looks like VM may be trying to get in ahead of BT.

Well that is a good thing, but BT plan to cover 75% of the UK, Virgin Media's Fiber Network, only covers 50%!

So Virgin have better get a move on!

m419 01-03-2012 13:11

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Originally Posted by thenarth (Post 35390967)
Across the road from my place (Shirland Road, Maida Vale) this morning, there are Virgin Media contractors (Virgin Media logo on the fenced off area) digging up the pavement and laying tracts of bright green ducting.

I asked one of the chaps if they were laying fibre optic cable, he said, yes, they were installing it for Virgin Media.

I'm not sure if this means that Virgin have decided to bite the bullet and install their own network in Westminster for consumers or if it is for some other reason.

No, its for Virgin Media Business.

The BT cable network which Virgin Media leases officially should end today, however, Virgin Media is not responsible for any maintainance or upgrades on the network and Virgin Media does not have any other infrastructure apart from telephone lines and fibre which was brought forward from Videotron/Cable and Wireless.

Virgin Media Business is currently supplying particular services to Westminster City Council, the business phone service provided to the council is probably still Colt.

thenarth 01-03-2012 16:35

Re: Westminster Cable TV closing but what about the hidden telephone service?
 
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Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35391059)
No, its for Virgin Media Business.

The BT cable network which Virgin Media leases officially should end today, however, Virgin Media is not responsible for any maintainance or upgrades on the network and Virgin Media does not have any other infrastructure apart from telephone lines and fibre which was brought forward from Videotron/Cable and Wireless.

Virgin Media Business is currently supplying particular services to Westminster City Council, the business phone service provided to the council is probably still Colt.

That is a shame! Knowing that Virgin Media fibre goes right past my door and that I can't connect to it is a bit frustrating!

m419 01-03-2012 16:40

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Originally Posted by thenarth (Post 35391166)
That is a shame! Knowing that Virgin Media fibre goes right past my door and that I can't connect to it is a bit frustrating!

I don't see why not when the lease of the BT Cable network ends, it will be like BT infinity if they did though because it was just built as a Telephone only franchise.

The Westminster Cable network is still up and running as of last week, and a rumour was that it is officially to close today, I will ask my friends if it has

Alan Fry 02-03-2012 09:32

Re: Westminster Cable TV closing but what about the hidden telephone service?
 
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Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35391059)
No, its for Virgin Media Business.

The BT cable network which Virgin Media leases officially should end today, however, Virgin Media is not responsible for any maintainance or upgrades on the network and Virgin Media does not have any other infrastructure apart from telephone lines and fibre which was brought forward from Videotron/Cable and Wireless.

Virgin Media Business is currently supplying particular services to Westminster City Council, the business phone service provided to the council is probably still Colt.

Can the lease be renewed, if not what will happen to the network?

MrWoo 02-03-2012 18:34

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Hello all,
I live in Westminster also a cable customer of Virgin, prior to that Westminster cable, my cable package was switched off on the 31st January.
I now only receive the basic 5 channels plus Itv2, however I still need to use my Virgin box to receive these.
I live in a block of flats and prior to getting cable tv I had a communal ariel. someone told me that at installation stage the engineers cut this.
I have looked in my cupboard where all the services come in and I cant find any trace of the ariel, today I paid £140 to the management company to install a new cable and to connect to freeview, does anyone know if I would be able to claim this cost back from Virgin.
Cheers Ian.

m419 02-03-2012 22:22

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Originally Posted by MrWoo (Post 35391826)
Hello all,
I live in Westminster also a cable customer of Virgin, prior to that Westminster cable, my cable package was switched off on the 31st January.
I now only receive the basic 5 channels plus Itv2, however I still need to use my Virgin box to receive these.
I live in a block of flats and prior to getting cable tv I had a communal ariel. someone told me that at installation stage the engineers cut this.
I have looked in my cupboard where all the services come in and I cant find any trace of the ariel, today I paid £140 to the management company to install a new cable and to connect to freeview, does anyone know if I would be able to claim this cost back from Virgin.
Cheers Ian.

No there not meant to touch the Cable socket or its cabling!

Secondly, the service is still, I know someone who still had broadband still running and are currently still paying for it.

You won't be able to claim that £140 back.

Your landlord/City West homes should be installing that for you and then you pay something like 87p per week in your rent/service charges. If you are a leaseholder then it will be in your building service charges, on my bill it comes up as 'TV Reception'.

Contact your landlord or estate manager for further information.

They have no business to cut any of BT/Virgin Media cables

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35391512)
Can the lease be renewed, if not what will happen to the network?

Nothing!

They wouldn't want to, but they can if they wanted to.

MrWoo 02-03-2012 22:42

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Hello m419, I am sorry I have maybe confused you with my post it was the cable engineers who cut my communal ariel when they installed it. My cable package has definitely been switched off although the box still works for the basics.
I am a leaseholder with City West homes and it was they who charged me £140 for an aerial connection with freeview, they never mentiond weekly charges, however I assume that they will run a new aerial cable from the roof to my lower ground floor flat through existing conduits. I must check my building maitenace bills and see if they have been charging me for this.
Thanks for the reply and also the info.
Cheers Ian

m419 03-03-2012 11:19

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Originally Posted by MrWoo (Post 35391934)
Hello m419, I am sorry I have maybe confused you with my post it was the cable engineers who cut my communal ariel when they installed it. My cable package has definitely been switched off although the box still works for the basics.
I am a leaseholder with City West homes and it was they who charged me £140 for an aerial connection with freeview, they never mentiond weekly charges, however I assume that they will run a new aerial cable from the roof to my lower ground floor flat through existing conduits. I must check my building maitenace bills and see if they have been charging me for this.
Thanks for the reply and also the info.
Cheers Ian

I live in Camden housing, that is what they have done here, they have installed an IRS system, suitable for Freeview,Freesat and Sky. It is terrible everyone complains that it keeps going down and i'm paying for it each week and don't need it.

MrWoo 03-03-2012 12:36

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I dont think Westminster has gone that far, they are only offering an ariel connection with freeview, I dont know how this works as I thought if you have an ariel you would get freeview automatically. I have also just bought a Bt vision box but cant use it until I get my connection.

paulsouth 03-03-2012 12:54

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Originally Posted by MrWoo (Post 35392076)
I dont think Westminster has gone that far, they are only offering an ariel connection with freeview, I dont know how this works as I thought if you have an ariel you would get freeview automatically. I have also just bought a Bt vision box but cant use it until I get my connection.

it least on bt vision u can have sky sports 1 and 2 and espn

m419 03-03-2012 16:05

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Originally Posted by MrWoo (Post 35392076)
I dont think Westminster has gone that far, they are only offering an ariel connection with freeview, I dont know how this works as I thought if you have an ariel you would get freeview automatically. I have also just bought a Bt vision box but cant use it until I get my connection.

No most councils have installed a combined dish and aerial and the socket has four pins, one for TV-Freeview and Analogue freeview,one for FM Radio and 2 for satellite TV.

On BT Vision you will be able to get Freeview,Sky Sports 1 and 2,ESPN,Picturebox and other on-demand content.

You haven't been able to get Sky Sports on Westminster Cable since 2009 and Sky Movies since 2008 and no Front Row/Filmflex since 2006.

By the way if you require JSTV channel, which was on Westminster Cable TV until closure for £6 per month, it is not available on any other service in the UK including Sky.

MrWoo 03-03-2012 20:28

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I did have sky sports until the 31st January, the reason I got Bt vision is to be able to receive Sky sports 1 +2. I will have to wait to see what other things come through the ariel.
Thanks for your replies.

m419 03-03-2012 21:37

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Originally Posted by MrWoo (Post 35392302)
I did have sky sports until the 31st January, the reason I got Bt vision is to be able to receive Sky sports 1 +2. I will have to wait to see what other things come through the ariel.
Thanks for your replies.

They had Sky sports on Analogue? They took that off my mate back in 2009 saying it was no longer available and after that it was just audio but no picture

Yeah or you could use topupTV as well to get a similar but digital version of Westminster Cable, it runs through freeview but you get a viewing card to view the pay-tv channels


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