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I really can't see why Madrid felt this was an appropriate option but as it is the whole world is now aware of the situation and in terms of PR, the Spanish have done themselves no good at all and the Eurocrats still don't seem to be saying much about anything. I recall Juncker commenting on post Brexit hate crimes against Polish migrants in the UK so why he feels he can't say something about this (presuming he still hasn't) is beyond me. https://euobserver.com/political/139230 :shrug: |
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It's very difficult. On the one hand the usual suspects complain about EU leaders and institutions 'meddling' in Catalonia: http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...European-Union Quote:
https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/914449418446917637 I would mention Dan Hannan's response to her, which was also shredded, but as seems the in-thing for him now he deleted it and Politwoops hasn't caught up yet. https://www.politwoops.eu/p/unknown/DanielJHannan/ Everyone's favourite Belgian, Guy Verhofstadt, has made some comments. Quote:
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Was listening to this on the world service earlier and it certainly seems as though the appalling reaction of Madrid towards those who were trying to vote has indeed united many people on both sides of the argument in that region. The fact that there haven't been angry reprisals says a lot about the people involved and only serves to further highlight the difference between their approach and Madrid's. Let's all hope the violence has ended. |
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Beware Big Brother is Beating You... As for the limp EU the only comment from them will be to condone any violence.
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Latest From Reuters News Agency: Spanish Prime Minister Rajoy, has called on Catalonia President to abandon his plans for Independence to avoid "Greater Evils".
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I am just wondering what he means by the term, "Greater evils", is this more police brutality via a Spanish government declaring martial law ?
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Civil war?
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So as it turns out despite being the superstate EUSSR controlling everything about member states and leaving them zero sovereignty the EU don't actually have any competency in this. While the Treaty of Lisbon makes references to consequences there doesn't appear to be any legal basis - it's an aspiration only. Internal Spanish matter to be attended to according to their own sovereign laws and constitution. EU can express dismay and nothing else. As with everything else they're law-bound and there are a bunch of processes to follow. |
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This is going to get even more nasty very soon...
More News coming from Reuters: Spanish Constitutional Court has suspended The Catalan Parliament Session, which had been planned for Monday... |
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You'd need to ask whomever drafted those articles what they had in mind. I fully imagine there are a few things in Lisbon that are redundant and no-one found them concerning enough to amend them. One thing that couldn't be said about the European Union is that they aren't bureaucratic - they are bureaucratic to a fault but it's probably the only way to do what they do. :) |
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Cynical, opportunistic. Rod Liddle is no more credible on the EU than Jean-Claude Juncker and both should be treated with disdain as extremists. |
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