Re: No Internet Access and VM can't help :-(
 

Why do you say that?

Re: No Internet Access and VM can't help :-(
 

Becuse what you have posted is total rubbish perhaps?

Re: No Internet Access and VM can't help :-(
 

Steady on guys! You are giving the newby chap a very bad impression of how we do things on this forum!

Re: No Internet Access and VM can't help :-(
 

So we have to pander to misinformation and agree with everything anyone says even though we know it to be totally incorrect?

We don't do things that way on this forum!

By all means state your opinion but if you wish it to be accepted as fact at least post the proof to support it.

Re: No Internet Access and VM can't help :-(
 

Wikipedia can be edited by any man and his dog.

If you want me to, I can go on right now and change that whole page to say "ipv6 is only supported on cable. Furthermore all Virgin media users will be hacked because they are unprotected by firewalls"

Doesn't mean its true

Re: No Internet Access and VM can't help :-(
 

Going to extremes as usual Craig!:D:D:D

Re: No Internet Access and VM can't help :-(
 

Which you haven't done. All you said was "rubbish" and repeated it when I asked why.

I'm loathed to reply to threads like these, but just had to here; even you must admit that you were being immensely hypocritcal there.

As for Craig, he clearly didn't actually read the thread. The wikipedia link was for Npoanic to read as he was under the impression it didn't apply to users on VM, when it does.

Re: No Internet Access and VM can't help :-(
 

Dear Oh dear.......

I only wanted to point out that by switching off the sp1 firewall on the superdud the OP was not leaving himself totally unprotected.

Maybe I shouldn't have bothered. ;)

While ip6 and teredo tunnelling is probably a fascinating subject I don't think it is on topic here except for maybe a passing reference.

Re: No Internet Access and VM can't help :-(
 

if people want to save cash and already have vista or win7, then I suggest the excellent free 'windows 7 firewall control'. It uses the windows firewall internal firewall and is just a frontend for the rules, the weakness of the windows 7 firewall is that for outbound protection you get no popup when a app tries to use the net, it will just be blocked (if blocking enabled) so its all a manual process. This app watches the log and prompts you like 3rd party firewalls do but it has the advantage that it doesnt install any kernel drivers etc. it will use the underlying windows firewall, so no weird bugs or performance issues. I brought the paid version as I like the finetuning options in it but the free version is adequate if people just want some outbound protection. It does inbound also of course but in my view with NAT there is no need for software inbound protection.

Re: No Internet Access and VM can't help :-(
 

Actually, what you said was:
My point was that NAT isn't designed for providing security. I gave an example of it being bypassed (teredo tunnelling) but there are others - for example, the user may also have their PC set as the DMZ host. Or there may be bugs in the superhub's NAT rules (I don't believe the firmware is quite perfect yet!)

I certainly wouldn't advise people that with their software firewall disabled, they were "perfectly safe".

Re: No Internet Access and VM can't help :-(
 

Nobody's advocating disabling any software firewall, just the spi firewall n the plooperhub.

Re: No Internet Access and VM can't help :-(
 

Right ... except that the original poster had already disabled it:
This is the context in which the discussion has been happening.

Re: No Internet Access and VM can't help :-(
 

Obviously you haven't read post 6.

Re: No Internet Access and VM can't help :-(
 

for what its worth I have always kept the windows firewall enabled on its defaults (which has inbound protection) and have just recently enabled outbound as well. But to your point NAT will protect you from all the automated bots out there that scan for open ports and vulns etc. What you describing would maybe be done by a determined person manually. Obviously if someone has their pc on DMZ that would also bypass the SPI firewall as the router adds rules in the firewall to allow the traffic.