Re: What an obnoxious piece of work.....
 

And when you drive your legal car do you ever exceed the speed limit because if you do you are deciding that you are above the law? A rhetorical question.

I am not defending the actions of the cyclist (we don't know all the info) but this was an accident with the worst possible outcome; one which everyone potentially confronts through speeding and most people do that routinely.

I think we need to be very careful about judging how people feel.

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But they tend not to do it knowing they don't have working brakes as required by the law.

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By speeding they are outside the law; legal brakes or not.

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Not sparing the horses. Originally a kind of reckless driving offence for carriage drivers. It still applies to people being reckless with a horse and cart but these days it is used more often to convict Lycra louts.

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it's as close to a hanging as we are getting

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With just enough rope left for you.;)

Re: What an obnoxious piece of work.....
 

I had a run in with one the other day in Manchester city centre. He was screaming at me because i almost hit him at a crossroads which i was passing through on green and he was going through on red. He was in the right according to him as he was on a bike and vehicles should watch out for bikes !!!!. I am still trying to work out his logic around red and green traffic lights. He even said he would report me and he had it all on video !!!!. I think a video of him jumping a red light would go down well with the coppers.

Thankfully we are about to get fixed cameras on the vans so at least we will have the evidence when we get this sort of attitude from some of the idiots who think they do not have to abide by traffic lights.

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What a horrible thing to say :(. Since when has riding a bike become a capital offence?

And whilst everyone recounts their personal anecdote of "why all cyclists are vermin" you might first remember that they are husbands, fathers, mothers, sons......

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indeed

Re: [Update] Cyclist convicted of "wanton and furious driving"
 

or there's lycrarat

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There are junctions that, because of their size, a cyclist can enter on green but exit on red. Most motorists see amber as 'go' when it means 'stop, get ready to go' but it's harder to catch the slower cyclists if you hang about...:rolleyes:

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i think you mean enter on red and exit on green;)

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I am more than happy to sit in the advance stop box, in front of all the traffic, waiting for the green light.

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It was not that big a junction plus he was going at a hell of a speed. i was on green not amber. He just rode straight out passing other bikers who were stopped at the red light. I accept not all bikers are cretins.

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Fair enough. I know there is a huge variation in cycling skills (as there is amongst car drivers, motorcyclists etc) and this can erode the respect that all road users must have for each other so that we can all get home for tea safely. Many less-skilled riders are learners and children.

When in my car, I will try always to protect them because I don't want to deprive a family of a mum or dad, son or daughter, and nor do I want to have the responsibility for someone's death.

When on my bike, I just want to stay alive.