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UserOfVirgin 11-05-2012 16:10

Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
Hi all,

I've just ordered my upgrade from 10Mb connection to 30Mb connection with VM. They're sending out a Superhub, but in all truth it doesn't look like it provides what I'm after.

I currently have a PS3, Xbox360, 2 laptops, several smart phones, a wireless printer, Freesat box and NAS device connecting to my wireless network. As you can imagine, at times the bandwidth is in demand.

All my devices except the printer support N WiFi signals (except the NAS but that's wired). The printer needs to be wireless sadly. So I need a router that will support G and N networks at the same time, not just one that is switchable to either network. On top of that I'd like to manage the bandwidth so my PS3 gets priority over my wife's mobile browsing on her smartphone so it doesn't interrupt my gaming.

I've tried numerous google searches but so far I've not found anything that ticks all the boxes.

qasdfdsaq 11-05-2012 16:34

Re: Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
Every N router supports G at the same time.

thenry 11-05-2012 16:37

Re: Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
cheap option d link 615 £10 ebay

high end Linksys

qasdfdsaq 11-05-2012 16:37

Re: Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
D-Link 615 with DD-WRT offers very fine-grained control of QoS settings both wired and wireless.

UserOfVirgin 11-05-2012 16:38

Re: Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
I was under the impression that the Superhub was a case of having an N network or a G network?

As in if I enabled the N network features my G network printer wouldn't connect?

qasdfdsaq 11-05-2012 17:08

Re: Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
No.

Every N router supports G at the same time.

craigj2k12 11-05-2012 17:34

Re: Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
the superhub did have a bug where it wouldnt allow G devices to connect in N mode, but as far as I know this has been fixed

Dash: CF noob 11-05-2012 21:11

Re: Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
I thought running a G device on an N network slows all the other devices down to G speeds?

I.E. MAX 54MB.

UserOfVirgin 11-05-2012 21:57

Re: Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
I'm thinking about removing the printer from the WiFi network, so the network will be all N.

The only thing I'd be looking for then would be decent QOS to ensure I get priority connections :)

qasdfdsaq 11-05-2012 22:23

Re: Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dash: CF noob (Post 35426560)
I thought running a G device on an N network slows all the other devices down to G speeds?

I.E. MAX 54MB.

No it doesn't.

UserOfVirgin 12-05-2012 10:05

Re: Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35426458)
D-Link 615 with DD-WRT offers very fine-grained control of QoS settings both wired and wireless.

That DD-WRT looks complicated?

Anyone recommend a decent router that would give excellent QOS services out of the box please?

Also, is the Superhub as bad as it sounds online? I've seen plenty of horror stories about poor WiFi and other issues?

kwikbreaks 12-05-2012 11:04

Re: Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UserOfVirgin (Post 35426677)
Also, is the Superhub as bad as it sounds online? I've seen plenty of horror stories about poor WiFi and other issues?

Regardless of any other issues it may have (and there are plenty for sure) it doesn't provide your basic requirement of QoS.

There are routers which will have something simple such as "enable Qos" without having to do lots of other settings but they cannot possibly provide "excellent QoS" because for that you need to specify quite precise rules.

I use Tomato firmware which has quite easy to use QoS settings but it hasn't been developed for years and only works on pretty old routers so I doubt you'd find one that would handle N amongst them.

qasdfdsaq 12-05-2012 18:17

Re: Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
The only thing that has better/easier QoS out of the box is Gargoyle, and that's harder to set up.

dave.m 12-05-2012 23:33

Re: Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35426693)
Regardless of any other issues it may have (and there are plenty for sure) it doesn't provide your basic requirement of QoS.

There are routers which will have something simple such as "enable Qos" without having to do lots of other settings but they cannot possibly provide "excellent QoS" because for that you need to specify quite precise rules.

I use Tomato firmware which has quite easy to use QoS settings but it hasn't been developed for years and only works on pretty old routers so I doubt you'd find one that would handle N amongst them.

Jonathan Zarate (Original author) hasn't updated since 1.28(2010) but there are quite a few different branches that extend & update functionality and add support for current routers.

Tomato is very much alive.

Check out linksys forums for info.

kwikbreaks 12-05-2012 23:56

Re: Which router for QOS and N & G devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dave.m (Post 35426959)
Jonathan Zarate (Original author) hasn't updated since 1.28(2010) but there are quite a few different branches that extend & update functionality and add support for current routers.

Tomato is very much alive.

Check out linksys forums for info.

Ah cheers - I just use it on an old Buffalo router which I only have as an internet gateway and DHCP server (the rest of my network is just a couple of gigabit switches) - plenty good enough for that and as the only wireless I use is for phones the G it runs is good enough for them too. I find the QoS invaluable and the bandwidth tools are useful too.


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