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Re: New high speed rail link ...is it worth it ?

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35549146)

There is going to be a multi million pound hotel built directly OVER the line that will use these high speed trains, and the effect on the area will be terrible,

Indeed ,the extra jobs created by this multi million £ hotel not to mention the upgraded roads to service it will be terrible :rolleyes:

On your point about the "foreign companies" getting the work ,i doubt it .We have some of the best construction companies in the world who are well placed to build this ,Balfour Beatty would be a front runner but it won't be a single company.The contract will be split into parcels and tendered for ,the workers will be taken from whoever wants the work bad enough so if not enough English unemployed want to get up early and work 8hrs a day then the gap will be filled by foreign workers

Re: New high speed rail link ...is it worth it ?

Re the Olympics - here is some news of some of those UK companies who allegedly didn't get the work.

http://www.constructionenquirer.com/...ion-companies/

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UK construction companies who helped build the 2012 venues are in line for £1.5bn of work in the next Olympics.

Work is expected to flow during a series of trade missions to cash-in on the success of the London Games.

And there is this....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/g...marketing.html

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Many household names, such as construction companies Balfour Beatty and McAlpine, worked on the Games for years leading up to the July opening. Although their participation is widely known about in their industries, they have not been allowed to trumpet their work elsewhere unless they paid to be sponsors.

Facts are our friends....

Re: New high speed rail link ...is it worth it ?

Where i work in Ealing, where this rail link will cut through, the large majority of workers l speak with every day are Polish, or from Afghanistan or Romania.

Each day when l go to work and see what damage it will do to this quiet area, which is large housing estates, this will all be torn to bits, and yet when these planners got about where they are going to run the line, they can always move it to the North which is where grassland and forest are.

Yet they want to plough it through housing areas, it doesn't make any sense. For the unemployed in the area, yes it will benefit BUT, these contractors are not stupid if they can get foreign workers at half the price then they will.

I know plenty of British builders, who actually employ foreign as they will get them to work longer on low pay, this is wrong.

The government should insist that the majority of the workers should come from the unemplyed and not ply there trade overseas - ie like Butlins.

Re: New high speed rail link ...is it worth it ?

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35549450)

Re the Olympics - here is some news of some of those UK companies who allegedly didn't get the work.

http://www.constructionenquirer.com/...ion-companies/

Absolutely fantastic! :)

Re: New high speed rail link ...is it worth it ?

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35549451)

Where i work in Ealing, where this rail link will cut through, the large majority of workers l speak with every day are Polish, or from Afghanistan or Romania.

It will cut through, so it isn't yet. So are these foreign workers actually working on HS2?

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Each day when l go to work and see what damage it will do to this quiet area, which is large housing estates, this will all be torn to bits, and yet when these planners got about where they are going to run the line, they can always move it to the North which is where grassland and forest are.

The thing is that there are extremely strict rules on building on green belt lend. Much stricter than those governing building on land that has already been built on.

There also may be legitimate engineering reasons why they aren't going through the forest, such as the ground being unable to take the weight.

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Yet they want to plough it through housing areas, it doesn't make any sense.

Maybe not to you, but you haven't seen all the reports on the surveys that will have inevitably been carried out. And with due respect, I doubt you have the engineering experience required to understand them fully.

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For the unemployed in the area, yes it will benefit BUT, these contractors are not stupid if they can get foreign workers at half the price then they will.

I know plenty of British builders, who actually employ foreign as they will get them to work longer on low pay, this is wrong.

Then surely you should be criticising the builders rather than the government which, in this case, is actually trying to support a failing industry that employs a lot of people? The government is not forcing them to employ foreign workers. That's their choice.

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The government should insist that the majority of the workers should come from the unemplyed and not ply there trade overseas - ie like Butlins.

Agreed.

Re: New high speed rail link ...is it worth it ?

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35549451)

Arthur i have sussed it, now i know who you are :)

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