Star Trek: Discovery
CBS confirms all-new live action Star Trek series.
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Exclusive to CBSs streaming service, although it will be on newsgroups and torrents within hours of broadcast.
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I can't wait. They are going to have a fantastic team of experienced guys with excellent stories and characters and state of the art special effects. I can only imagine the weapons, spacial anomalies and worlds they are going to create.
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Depends when it will be set.
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What will it be based on? the recent films or something else?
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It will be set in the same universe as the recent movies for sure.
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Probably just means that it's a different crew rather than the Enterprise. It wouldn't surprise me if someone from the films appeared in the pilot though to help ratings.
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I'd say so. They're not going to get the film cast to do a TV series and presumably they would like to be able to make more films if possible, so they can't re-cast the main characters. We are most likely in for a sideways jump across the Trek universe. If we're in the Abrams timeline, and the same point in history, then I'd like to see the Five Year Mission as experienced by another ship and crew.
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Watch the New Star Trek Series Teaser.
Read more at http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/trailer...5kugmm5gqUF.99 |
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Well aside from a logo, that doesnt really tell or show you anything.
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Really didn't learn anything from that ...
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It's just a teaser to get the die-hards all juiced up.
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I would hope that the series follows on from TNG/DS9/Voyager but I highly doubt it.
It'll probably follow the lines of the current movies alternate timeline ..which sucks IMO :/ |
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It's already been reported that it's in the 'prime' timeline between TOS and TNG - at least at first.
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excellent and I am all "juiced up". I enjoy the new movies for what they are but I definitely prefer the TNG movies. I can understand why they have made them the way they did but I hope the series doesn't follow suit. Action and comedy is great but Star Trek is about the morals and science and I hope the new series continues the spirit of all previous series.
Enterprise wasn't the best but I loved seeing them deal with developing technology like shields, photon torpedoes and phasers and hopefully we'll see more of that in this new series. Enterprise finished off with them founding the UFP and dealing with issues like the prime directive and I am hoping we'll get to see more stuff like that as well. |
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I'd like to see Abrams on board but its probably unlikely given his rise to even bigger heights with the Star Wars sequel's. His refusal to bring back Fringe is dire :D he also left the new Star Trek movie in the hands of Justin Lin because nothing could go possibly wrong...:td:
Any TV show related to Abrams does well. Who knows though I like the idea of it being a spin off from the new movies following a different crew and of course maybe there's an episode cameo involving Pine/Quinto along the way. Oh and Charles Xavier of course. With the production quality of TV shows now it should have a fair shot regardless of which direction it goes and it already has the benefit of an established fan base. |
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I did read that it takes place in the prime timeline and NOT the new film timeline.
Also that it will be an anthology show covering various periods between TOS and TNG. So that would explain the crews part in the teaser. I am excited but do hope it's good. |
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I had one of my super genius ideas today at work. In every Star Trek series they have a story arch or two-parter which we remember as being epic and one of the defining moments of Star Trek. In DS9 it was The Way of the Warrior and in Voyager it was Scorpion. I nearly poo'd my pants when I saw those Borg cubes blown to pieces in the opening scene.
So, each series has made continuous references to the Klingon-Federation war and various battles. I would love to see them delve into the events which led up to the war and maybe see some awesome battles, they should look stunning now compared to what we have seen in the past. I wouldn't mind a bit of Klingon opera as well :) |
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"Bryan Fuller is the man with a plan. Recently, the new Star Trek series showrunner revealed new details about the CBS All Access show to Collider. So far, few details have been released about the new series, which is being produced by Fuller, Alex Kurtzman, Nicholas Meyer, and Rod Roddenberry, the son of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry. In the interview, Fuller said the first season will consist of 13 episodes and six have already been planned thoroughly. He also mentioned the first season will feature a single story throughout its 13 episodes.
Production will begin this September, with a premiere slated for early 2017 on CBS’ streaming service, All Access." |
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Netflix has streaming rights outside of USA :-(((
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I wondered how they was going to do it when they said it was going to be online. I think they are shooting themselves in the foot tbh. I appreciate things have moved on since Enterprise and the previous series but you can't assume that your entire demographic has Netflix and/or is going to want to stream it. I would have thought it would make more sense to have it on Syfy channel given that a vast majority of the population will have Sky/BT/Virgin/digital tv/equivalent in other countries.
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I don't think its a bad punt. You can't groan at the way Netflix is hoovering up shows and producing their own for a mere tenner a month. If they keep up with getting shows out the week they air or even getting the rights themselves then they'll become better value than stuff like Sky.
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I did expect this as Netflix UK now has every episode of Star Trek from every series including the animated one.
I don't mind as I am subscribed though. They will air on UK Netflix within 24 hours of the US airtime which is great. |
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... and on the usual alternative outlets shortly thereafter, no doubt ...
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My posts on here make me look quite anti Netflix, and they do have their faults, I still find their recommendations at best, laughable, and they do tend to overhype their shows, which tends to put me off shows that I might otherwise like, as I get sick of hearing about them. Also, their shows are generally, but not always, good or excellent. I genuinely not anti Netflix, or anti Amazon Prime Video. I have subscriptions to both, and go through phases where I make a lot of use of both. The only real complaint I have about Netflix is that they don't allow downloads. It's all well and good saying people can stream the programmes, but we don't have 100% mobile coverage, and are not likely to ever. For instance, despite repeated complaints, the mobile coverage from pretty much all the networks on my train home is variable to say the least. I'd love to be able to download episodes (or films) on my home Wifi, or at work, then play them on the train. The other reason for downloading via Wifi is simple. I have limited data. OK, so it's a high limit, but it's still there. I am looking forward to Star Trek. There seems to be a good team behind it, and I'm hoping they are allowed to do pretty much what they want without corporate interference. I don't know if Netflix are co-producing the series (they do seem to be doing this increasingly), but if they are, they don't seem to interfere with the production. Orphan Black, for instance, hasn't changed much since Netflix came on board as a co producer with BBC America. |
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My kids have watched entire seasons of Mako Mermaids (google it ...) on Dailymotion which seem to have been ripped from Netflix somehow.
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Indeed, however you wonder why they bother spending a fortune on acquiring rights they then hope to recoup via subscriptions, if they're going to allow their stuff to be downloaded and then shared on a YouTube clone that requires absolutely no cunning or lawbreaking to access.
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The problem, from a security point of view, with sites such as Youtube is that these sites carry far to much media to be properly vetted by Humans, and while Google does have (apparently very effective) systems for blocking copyright infringement, they are not perfect. That said, I don't think Google actually do as much as they can (bear in mind they profit from any ads on the pirated videos, so it's not really in their interest to do too much). When I went into hospital last year, Youtube was only available in what they call "Restricted" mode. I was unable to watch ANY copyrighted videos, and searches for any TV series or movie names usually only returned videos of people talking about those TV series or movies, no video from the movie or TV series. This was annoying,as I was trying to watch Space 1999, which isn't on Netflix or Prime Video (so I couldn't have watched it legally). |
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Star Trek: Discovery.
Trailer available online. The ship design obviously heavily influenced by the design of the ship from the cancelled " phase 2" tv series from the '70's. |
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I've seen the "Trailer" and it looks like animation, so I hope its just test footage of what the ship will look like.
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Well it's not even started filming yet, so will likely be something knocked up quickly for comic con, as it is just a Teaser.
Incidentally the design for that ship was done by Ralph McQuarrie so has a star wars vibe about it. https://goo.gl/images/wf5wwz While Discovery is a cool name for the ship it means the series initials are STD. Lmao Teaser link https://youtu.be/z8h9uNeIB_M |
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So far most of the comments I've seen about the trailer are negative, and for multiple reasons. If the aim of the trailer was start to build excitement, so far it seems to have done the opposite. And personally, for something that's supposed to in part celebrate 50 years of Star Trek, having a ship design that was purposely canned because it didn't feel like a Star Trek ship is an strange choice. |
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to boldly go where no one has gone before, STD
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http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/star-...riginal-series
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So is the Discovery part of the title actually about the lead character rather than explaring space? Glad its in the old timeline though. Also before Kirk by only 10 years, does that means uniforms and sets will look like the 60s originals? |
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Oh great .. the obligatory PC characters, and someone "has to first understand herself".
I hope this is not as bad as it sounds. |
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I am surprised they are doing this tbh because I think part of the reason why Enterprise failed was the period it was set in and the lack of technology. I loved the stories in Enterprise where they were developing phasers, shields and photo torpedoes because you know what the end result is going to be but that being said, it isn't for everyone. It is like watching a cowboy film where you think "if they had P90's, a couple of Apache helicopters and A10s they would be sorted". A lot of the time in Enterprise when they faced with impending doom I would remember a technical solution from something like Voyager and sigh in frustration thinking "they can't do that yet".
I am sure I am going to enjoy it but I do wish they would do one based in the future and/or on the Relativity. It would give them a completely blank canvas for new worlds and aliens, technology and endless story opportunities. |
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Maybe the setting of the series around the original era is for budget reasons.
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Who do you think will take the place of "alien, robot, hologram" that acts as the foil????
I.e. Spock, Data, Odo, the Doctor, Seven of Nine etc. |
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that is what I am worried about. Sometimes they go OTT is trying to make things look "classic" and they forget that we aren't in the 60's anymore and technology has moved on.
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But the series is set in the Trek era from the 60s.
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I think they picked the era deliberaty to make it cheaper for sets and things. |
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Why? the sets didn't look cheap or look like tech from the 60s for Enterprise? :/ |
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Enterprise sort of looked like an advanced submarine or something like that.
This series is 10 years prior to Kirk so will have to look very similar. |
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and that limits them in the scope of the stories, ships, in-story technology, aliens etc which they can use because they have got to stick to what is already known and established. I enjoyed Enterprise but I think what I just said was the reason for its downfall. Look at Voyager; new quadrant means new aliens and planets which means new technology which means unlimited possibilities for stories. Even if you tried to make it adventurous and say they are out exploring space for the first time like Archer and Kirk, they can only discover what we already known about and is already part of Federation and Starfleet history. The best you can get is learning the nitty gritty details about it and exploring some stories in depth. It is probably the wrong time frame but I would love to see them cover aspects of the Federation-Klingon war similar to the odd eps in seasons 5 and 6 of DS9 covering the Dominion war.
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Nothing to stop them discovery species only to have them wiped out or something, so they then do not exist during the Original Series timeline.
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If the writers of Discovery obsess over the tech then the series will fail. Enterprise was turgid because they wanted to do Star Trek without a lot of the scaffolding that allows those stories to be told, then made a great song and dance about it. Thus it became a very self conscious documentary of the making of Starfleet when it should have just told rip-roaring tales that were defined by their own times.
I'm glad Discovery will be set close in time to TOS. The tech of that period is well understood. They should just go with it, and use it the way the original writers did - simply means to enable the stories they wanted to tell. |
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I still can't make up my mind about this but I am a proper sucker for Star Trek so I guess I'll be giving it a shot.
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I like pure scifi like Star Trek and BSG so even if it isn't good, I think I will still enjoy it more than I do most other series.
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Is this accurate?
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I'm just glad it will be on Netflix in the UK.
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I agree, it looks like a cack-handed attempt to use a big brand to push a pay-tv service. There will be plenty of hard core fans who will buy in to it but whether there will be enough to recover their production costs and make a profit remains to be seen.
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Guess it all depends how much Netflix paid them wor the rest of the world rights.
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According to reports, the first season will only be 13 episodes.
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I've seen that mentioned a few times.
I am happy with that as a full 22 epsiode season as per all previous season meant there were many 'filler' episodes. Hopefully it will mean this means that having less episodes means better episodes. |
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A lot of Netflix shows have similar season lengths.
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New uniforms will look pretty much like they did in 'The Cage'
Designed by Gucci as well. https://twitter.com/BryanFuller/stat...619489280?s=09 |
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Very disappointing, I was looking forward to it so much. Unless it is all about summer ratings I wonder what has happened that they have had to bang it back by 5 months on such short notice. They have hyped it up so much over the last couple of months everyone is looking forward to it now.
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I just hope the delay includes getting the best special effects possible (alongside all the other things they need to get right)
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I'd say that is a more realistic date.
Its September and they haven't even announced cast or started production on a show that was due to start in January. For a show with lots of post production and effects work I don't see January being achievable in terms of making the show look good and of a good standard. |
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"Star Trek TV show filming locations: Where's it shooting? Filming will begin in Toronto in September 2016 – to be specific, in Pinewood Toronto Studios, taking advantage of the facility's 46,500-square-foot mega-stage for some truly epic adventures." http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/star-tr...ies-tv-series/ |
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You already posted the link to that story the other day?
Have made it a bit easier to read. |
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nope, the original link just said it was being rescheduled etc with no reason. This is now the pr friendly excuse for it.#
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If you click your original link it takes you to the exact same story though.
I knew it would be for production reasons as stated in my earlier posts. It would be impossible to have it ready by January and have good quality production and effects. |
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to be fair I didn't read the first link. The original article I read was on tvseriesfinale.com which is where I get all my tv series new from and it basically said the date had been pushed back and that was it and it provided the link which I posted. Even the original article has been updated since and now reads as:
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I've added quotes and removed the bottom half as it was just the same as posted on the official link. |
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Sasha from The Walking Dead is cast as shows lead female character
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delayed again, this is not looking good:
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I was asked to take command but refused due to other obligations lol
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I did see this yesterday, indefinite delay. Not really the greatest news although they did also confirm the actor playing Sarek(Spock's Father) in the show.
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There is clearly no serious deadline, which is rarely a good idea in any project (unless you're inventing something totally new, and let's face it, they're not - the Trek universe is well understood, all they're doing is what every tv production company does every day of the week, devising characters and storylines to fit an established universe). My bet is that CBS is hedging against the possibility that they won't get sufficient subscribers and has set a low budget, which would also tend to make things run more slowly. For maximum impact/minimum outlay, they could have more simply spun something off in the 24th century where TNG and DS9 storylines have all been left hanging (Voyager was pretty well finished I think). I have had a trial subscription to Netflix for the past couple of weeks and I've been delighted to find the remastered TNG is on there. I've been re-watching all my favourite episodes and remembering just how good that show was, especially once it hit its stride. Basically what I'm trying to say is, Discovery has a very tough act to follow, as it attempts to bring back the franchise in the way TNG did. It will need focus, commitment and hard work. It's hard to see evidence of that right now. |
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... I've got the TNG boxsets on a shelf right above my tv, don't touch them at all now. Click Netflix, click TNG, click which ep, done and in HD. Easy and lazy...
You may be right about the new show. What a shame. If everything is okay, script, cast, general direction of the show etc, why the delay? Something is amiss somewhere, perhaps the borg have assimilated the producers.:) |
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Discovery has a tough act to follow. They have a good consulting producer Nicholas Meyer (who directed The Wrath of Kahn and the Undiscovered Country and is one of two people credited with keeping the franchise alive after the relative failure of The Motion Picture). If he is still as good a writer as he was during those two films, and if he is directly involved, I think it will do well. It seems to have a good team behind it. I think TNG was always going to be a difficult series to follow (although DS9 did a good job). Although it had some very bad episodes (the first half of season one and a lot of season 7 for instance), it had some of the best episodes I've seen in any TV series. I think one of the things I liked about TNG is that in some of the best stories, the actual setting was almost irrelevant, which meant that some of the best episodes almost weren't sci fi. |
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TOS postulated a future in which Russians and Americans could serve in the same uniform, right at the height of the Cold War, and, famously, a future in which ethnically different characters could even kiss, much less fall in love, at a time when racial segregation had only just lost its basis in US law. I'm not certain Nick Meyer will have much direct involvement in this new series. Making someone a consulting producer is usually a means of preventing copyright disputes. Ignoring the Motionless Picture for a moment (as most people do), everything that was any good about the original film franchise originated with him (though he famously disagreed with the idea of bringing Spock back from the dead). Discovery will almost certainly reference his ideas directly at various points, as it is set fairly close in the continuity to the end of the original film run, and may well pick up ideas he had but which didn't find their way into the films. If his name is on the credits for Discovery, then they easily get his buy-in for any of that. For comparison ... Gene Roddenberry had a producer credit on TNG, but reputedly he spent most of his time writing memos to the real show producers slagging the project off. * A Trill, except not in quite the same way they were later portrayed in DS9. |
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Interestingly if you read the some of the Enterprise books that have been released since the series ended, they've tried to explain the disparity in the technology (specifically those covering the Romulan War), and why Enterprise feels 'newer' than the Original Series.
I know it's a 'retcon' but it's no different than what Enterprise did for the Klingons, which I thought was a reasonable solution. |
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Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Enterprise, and was sad at both the fact it was axed and the way it ended (I felt that the last scene in which Riker and Troi were watching the events on a Holodeck cheapened the series).
That said, I did enjoy the explanation of why the Klingons are how they are. Enterprise actually handled the differences quite well, but it always was going to be a problem, with Enterprise being made 40 years after Star Trek, but set a few years before. |
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I thought the TNG link was a great addition and really helped tie the series in to the rest of the Trek universe, so that it did actually feel like part of it.
I know they did try to make the tech look basic but it didn't properly work due to modern tools and materials. |
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the thing which I loved about Enterprise was the number of 2 and 3 parters they did in order to make the most of the opportunity to explore and explain major story lines which have been established in Trek culture such as the Klingons, Section 37 and the initial relationship they had with the Vulcans. I thought it was genius and I hope they do the same in the new series.
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That was excellent but unfortunately it was too late. It was one of the best aspects of the final season and it was a shame they didn't get chance to expand more on it.
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Any Star Trek can't wait... Voyger still the best ever in my personal opinion.
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I watched a documentary on something a couple of weeks ago (I think it was something to do with the awards season) and one of the people speaking said we have got to the stage in technology where we can create anything we imagine. We don't want everything green screen but I think it is fantastic for us sci-fi fans that it has got to the point where all the worlds, species, ships and anything else writers and creators imagine can now be made real. I loved Voyager because they were able to create everything on a larger scale (e.g. the Borg universe) and make it real and believable. I am rewatching TNG atm and you can't help but notice how small scale everything was filmed and they had one set for the Borg cube with paintings for the background. The perfect example and what epitomises everything I have just said is Rogue One. It was the absolute perfect balance in every regard and was able to create everything with spectacular effect (e.g. the devastation on Jedha) |
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