Re: Sainsbury's pull out of 'Work for your benefits scheme'
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Tesco UK's chief executive Richard Brasher said: "We know it is difficult for young people to give up benefits for a short-term placement with no permanent job at the end of it. "So this guarantee that a job will be available provided the placement is completed satisfactorily, should be a major confidence boost for young people wanting to enter work on a permanent basis." Mr Clegg added: "It is very simple. We say to employers, 'Please take on these young people. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-politics-17116473 |
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At least sainsburys and other companies that have pulled out recognise that simple fact.:mad: |
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I still think this is a scheme which leads to exploitation. Free temporary labour for the likes of Tesco. I would prefer it if it were limited to non-profit or governmental work and not for commercial enterprise. Realistically what can be gained but a month stacking shelfs?
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I've heard that shops/companies are approaching the jobcentres now asking if they can have some free labour.
it was the jobcentres approaching the shops/companies up until now. see, everyone thinks Xmas has come early! :) ---------- Post added at 19:13 ---------- Previous post was at 19:05 ---------- Quote:
(put forced to work as a slave for 4 weeks) Gives you a moral boost for doing something with yourself. (as long as you stop remembering that you were forced to do this, and you don't mind the person who gets a full wage telling you to do the hard work. then you should be ok) Helps keep the tax payers happy. (that you're the main reason why this country doesn't have to employ anyone anymore, because the government introduced a 'free workers farm' for companies to take a handful from. Back to the new entry on your CV. (take it to a company that doesn't use free workers) (if you can find one that doesn't) |
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The taxpayers are happy of course until the point they stop been a taxpayer and another person working for their JSA instead.
If tesco dont back down by next week then I will have to carry out my threat to them and use sainsburies next week for my food shopping. |
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Stop giving work experience, or stop giving a quarter of those who had been on work experience a permanent job?
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I simply said stop taking part in DWP schemes which is work placements for JSA.
If tesco want to pay a wage (which would be independent of JSA) for work placements I have no issue with. Why are these work placements for JSA claimants only and with sanctions for pulling out? and of course a bigger issue that these schemes could be used on sick claimants in future. |
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And 400 people got jobs with Tesco after undertaking the JSA work placements - if they stop those, they don't get to evaluate potential candidates.
btw, very few short-term "work placements" pay wages (including internships / work experiences for Labour MPs and Unions). |
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Why they need taxpayer funded applicants is beyond me. I shop with tesco and have done for years taking part in these schemes damages their reputation no end at least sainsburys and other companies had the sense to see that. ---------- Post added at 11:34 ---------- Previous post was at 11:09 ---------- IDS comes out fighting i do not agree with the scheme but he does have a point about jobs snobs though. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-job-snob.html |
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I dont think many will say been a layabout is better than stacking shelves however the fact he came out with that comment means he is out of touch with the real issue.
If tesco have vacancies for trial positions then they should be advertising these to everyone and paying any wage on top of whatever income that person may already have. The DWP shouldnt be discriminating on age which they do time and time again. It seems been long term unemployed is fine the older you are with more entitlement to housing costs as well as less pushing from the job centre to find work. If they want to shrug of slave labour labeling the very yeast they need to do is scrap any sanctions for not taking part, tesco have insisted on this themselves so if IDS doesnt back down they will probably pull out I expect, if he does back down my guess is they will stay in. I agree maggy although its better than nothing his comments are very wrong. |
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Tesco i believe offer a career average pension to all their employees plus a profit sharing scheme so it would be wrong to say the options are crap people on the shop floor can go up if they wish but only if they have a job in the first place. I have a friend who works in what you might describe as "low paid low status job" for £6.90 an hour but he gets tax credits to make his money up so is better off then on the dole. The uk youth would be better off and so would anybody else who looks down their nose at these jobs to respect the people doing what is after all a very necessary job. I have done low paid work in my past and certainly i am no job snob.:) |
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My son and daughter have stacked shelves in the evenings as summer jobs, and it takes a couple of weeks before any shelf stackers are felt capable of being allowed to do it unsupervised (as doing it wrong really peeves the customers if the stuff isn't in the right place the right way). Trust me, work placements are not "free labour", not if you have to train and manage them. There's an opinion piece in today's Times that puts it well, imho Times (behind a paywall) Quote:
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So, I would argue on that point at least, he is talking out of somewhere the sun don't shine. |
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So what if an hour after starting people were stacking shelves as the poles have found a job is a job and that can lead upwards a colleague of mines daughter started as a shelf stacker and is now a manager at Tesco. Job Snobs do my head in.:erm: ---------- Post added at 17:09 ---------- Previous post was at 16:42 ---------- Quote:
I do not deride these jobs in fact i support them all i ask is that those that do them get the going rate for the job,and not some government work for the benefit programme as this only serves as a subsidy to big buisness.:( |
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