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tvvee 08-12-2010 17:41

Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Good Evening

Is there a tuner emulator or other way to emulate one so I could mess with stuff that requires a tuner to be installed like the guide without having to install a physical tuner?




Thanks for help ;):)

---------- Post added at 17:41 ---------- Previous post was at 16:50 ----------

Hello

Nobody can help me?

Jameseh 08-12-2010 18:34

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
TunerFreeMCE for Windows Media Center or just use TVCatchup.

Peter_ 08-12-2010 18:35

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Try TVCatchup http://www.tvcatchup.com/

tvvee 08-12-2010 18:49

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
But i want to do it without an internetconnection and without a real tv tuner

---------- Post added at 18:49 ---------- Previous post was at 18:38 ----------

Maybe i can say it more exakly

Is there software that can insert 'signal' into a tuner?
with such a setup testing is easy...

Thanks for help

Peter_ 08-12-2010 18:50

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Maybe this page http://virtual.software.informer.com...tual-tv-tuner/

tvvee 08-12-2010 19:44

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
But there are no virtual tuner

I just want to test the TV Settings and dont want to buy a real tuner..


It should look for the windows mediacenter software if a tv card is inside my pc and if i have channels and some tv programs. All this should the software emulate a tv card and the sample channels


I know its a difficult question..

---------- Post added at 19:05 ---------- Previous post was at 18:56 ----------

What I am looking for is a fake source for a dvb multiplex with 3
channels or better.

---------- Post added at 19:44 ---------- Previous post was at 19:05 ----------

Its really difficult.. to help me i know.. OK

It could be also for Ubuntu.

Jameseh 08-12-2010 20:34

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
You've asked here and thegreenbutton. If you can't get an answer from two sites dedicated to TV and tuners then what your looking for either doesn't exist or is too complicated a setup for you.

DVB-T tuners aren't exactly expensive, they're about £30 if your that desperate for a TV signal.

tvvee 08-12-2010 20:36

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
But there had to be a software whitch emulates a tuner.. We re in 2011 in a few weaks..

And not in 1998!

Jameseh 08-12-2010 20:40

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
What do you mean 'emulates a tuner'? How can something emulate something that REQUIRES a aerial or coax cable, where would you plug that?

tvvee 08-12-2010 20:43

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/p/76507/382712.aspx

Look at this thread

Jameseh 08-12-2010 20:49

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35134709)
You've asked here and thegreenbutton. If you can't get an answer from two sites dedicated to TV and tuners then what your looking for either doesn't exist or is too complicated a setup for you.

Someone provided a program, you couldn't set it up. Your problem, can only be solved by you.

tvvee 08-12-2010 20:51

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
How can i install this software?

http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/p/76507/382712.aspx

LSainsbury 10-12-2010 19:11

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35134725)

run setup.exe - hope for the best? :)

tvvee 13-12-2010 18:34

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Could you test this Software and say me if it would emulate a TV Tuner?

Thanks

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo.../PBDAIPSim.msi

Kymmy 14-12-2010 09:08

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
All you need is a Mpeg2 or Mpeg4 stream as that's all a tuner will output from a DVB-S/T/C signal.. Try VLC (or similar) for the stream and if you don't know how to do that then sorry but you're asking the wrong questions or have absolutely no understanding of what you're attempting to do

vanman 14-12-2010 15:49

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
kymmy
he has been on about 10 different forums asking the same question and getting the same answers. :)

LSainsbury 14-12-2010 17:42

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35136943)
Could you test this Software and say me if it would emulate a TV Tuner?

Thanks

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo.../PBDAIPSim.msi



Why don't you read and complete the steps as outlined in this post:

http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/p/76507/377384.aspx

tvvee 15-12-2010 05:32

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Whey i try to open the exe File my computer shows the circle and then nothing

So it doenst work on my computer..

What a pitty..

LSainsbury 15-12-2010 16:05

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35137869)
Whey i try to open the exe File my computer shows the circle and then nothing

So it doenst work on my computer..

What a pitty..

Have you tried with elevated administrator privileges and disabling UAC?

tvvee 16-12-2010 05:51

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Yes but nothing works..

I am really dissappointed

LSainsbury 16-12-2010 09:20

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35138431)
Yes but nothing works..

I am really dissappointed

Ohh well. Never mind.

BTW - you could try installing it on a fresh built PC...

Kymmy 16-12-2010 09:29

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
BTW, a webcam normally uses the same capture stream as a tv tuner outputs.. ;)

tvvee 16-12-2010 16:19

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Or can somebody on this forum test it?

Because it wont work on my Laptop and i dont know the reason.

LSainsbury 16-12-2010 21:41

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35138678)
Or can somebody on this forum test it?

Because it wont work on my Laptop and i dont know the reason.

Well we won't either.

Have you read the READ ME PBDAIP Device Simulator file?

tvvee 17-12-2010 05:31

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Yes i rad it

tvvee 17-12-2010 16:49

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
But it wont help me

danielf 17-12-2010 16:54

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
It works fine here. Emulating TV and all that... ;)

tvvee 17-12-2010 17:12

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
So please give me a screenshot

danielf 17-12-2010 17:20

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
This is the software emulating channel 4 earlier

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2010/12/51.jpg

And the BBC

http://theislamicstandard.files.word...2/bbc_news.jpg

LSainsbury 17-12-2010 17:21

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35139194)
So please give me a screenshot


Why? That won't help you will it.

To be honest I don't think people are too bothered as it's not really a piece of software people would use day in, day out.

I think people have better stuff to do at the moment like preparing for Christmas and playing in the snow!

Also - we are here to help if we can - best efforts etc. Nobody is "paid" to help you with your issue regardless of how many posts you post about it. :)

tvvee 17-12-2010 17:34

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
OK

But we have 1 week until christmas..

LSainsbury 17-12-2010 17:44

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35139214)
OK

But we have 1 week until christmas..


What's that suppose to mean?

tvvee 17-12-2010 17:46

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
So you can just help people

LSainsbury 17-12-2010 17:51

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35139227)
So you can just help people

You're not making sense now...

tvvee 19-12-2010 10:10

A Question to a driver
 
Good morning

First of all

I translate this text with the Googe translation... So you dont have to wonder about the Englisch

I found this driver in WinDDK by Microsoft and now have a Fraage it. His name is testcap.

It says yes

Quote:

The driver simulates the front-end components of a PC / TV, including input selection, TvTuning, TvAudio control, and digital video streaming

Does that mean I can simulate an entire TV with this driver or the driver of my beret is on the computer all TV functions like a real TV?

So I then all TV functions e.g. mitdem Windows can use Media Center in Windows 7?

I request explanation .. For obwoh I am good in English and the meaning of the driver I would have interpreted the safe side befor I try out the driver for me to ask here nochals. One probably I have interpreted the meaning of the driver, too wrong ..

Thanks for your reply.





Testcap is a sample WDM stream class video capture driver that does not require any hardware for operation. The driver simulates the front-end components of a PC / TV, including input selection, TvTuning, TvAudio control, and digital video streaming. You can use TestCap as a prototype for developing your own mini kernel streaming driver.
The component supports TvTuner tuning modes of analog TV (NTSC / PAL / SECAM), AM / FM radio, and ATSC (American Broadcast Digital Television).
Testcap appears in a DirectShow graph as four separate filters:

* Testcap Capture
* Testcap TvTuner
* Testcap TVAudio
* Testcap Crossbar

The capture filter output produces five streams, two of Which are Capture and Preview, Which produce a variety of color bars and grayscale patterns Depending on the selected video input on the crossbar. The capture and preview streams contain video samples in either YUV422 or RGB24 color spaces and offer a large number of different image dimensions. The other three streams are capture VBI (vertical blanking interval), HWCC (hardware closed captioning), and HWNABTS (hardware-North American Basic Teletext Specification). These three are VBI streams, and offer CC and NABTS simulated waveforms for decoding, and simulated hardware-decoded CC and NABTS.
TestCap contains sample implementations for almost all of the kernel streaming property sets involved in WDM video capture. Most of the property set implementations are useful only as prototypes, Which you can borrow for your own implementations because Testcap does not control actual hardware.
TestCap represents one extreme of combining all functionality representing the front end of a PC / TV into a single driver. The other extreme is to create a separate driver for each element: TvTuner, TvAudio, crossbar, and capture.
USING THE SAMPLE
The sample is completely contained TestCap in one directory. Build the sample with the standard DDK build utility. You may build the sample in either a checked or free build environment DDK. TestCap compiles for Windows 98 and later, and Windows 2000 and later operating systems. The sample then compiles for 64-bit Windows platforms. The Resulting binary from the build process is Testcap.sys, Which is compatible on x86 and Alpha platforms.
Testcap is not a PnP driver, and because no hardware is involved you must manually install it:

* Right-click My Computer and select Properties. Select the Hardware tab. Then select the Hardware Wizard and then add new hardware.
* Click Next when you see "To install hardware Which is not Plug and Play compatible, click Next."
* Select "No, I want to select the hardware from a list."
* When you see "What type of hardware do you want to install", select Sound, Video, and Game Controllers.
* Select "Have Disk .."
* Browse to "Testcap.inf.
* Browse to "Testcap.sys" when requested.

TestCap has been tested with the following applicatons: graphedt.exe, AMCap.exe, and WebTV for Windows.
The Windows Hardware and Driver Central website contains general information on driver and hardware development.
The website contains information on Microsoft DirectX DirectShow.

Kymmy 19-12-2010 10:17

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Please keep to the same thread on what is the same subject

tvvee 19-12-2010 10:19

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
OK

Sorry for that..

Sirius 19-12-2010 10:37

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Round and round we go, Where we stop nobody knows

Linux is not windows and windows is not ubuntu.

tvvee 19-12-2010 10:43

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Hello

OK

I set up now a virtual Machine with Windowsvista..

So what does the driver do?

Kymmy 19-12-2010 10:45

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Exactly what it says in the translated file

tvvee 19-12-2010 11:06

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
So it simulates a TV Screen on my Computer right?

Kymmy 19-12-2010 11:11

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
No, it simulates a capture device

tvvee 19-12-2010 13:01

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
But i can also watch TV with this device..

Kymmy 19-12-2010 13:09

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
It's not a television

Sirius 19-12-2010 13:14

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Reminds of a quiz show

Stuart 19-12-2010 13:16

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35140170)
But i can also watch TV with this device..

If you want to watch TV on your computer, you will need to buy a TV card or USB stick.

The devices listed here are for developing applications using video capture. They generate a known signal in the same way a hardware capture device would. They cannot receive television as your computer will not have the hardware required.


If you want to receive TV on your computer, visit the various channels websites. Most of them carry live streams now.

LSainsbury 19-12-2010 14:52

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35140092)
Hello

OK

I set up now a virtual Machine with Windowsvista..

So what does the driver do?


Great! What have you used to do this - what software?

tvvee 19-12-2010 15:38

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Hello

With Virtualbox...


But in the text they say

The driver simulates the front-end components of a PC/TV, including input selection, TvTuning, TvAudio control, and digital video streaming

So i think i can install the driver start my windows media center and then the TV Card driver should be in the List am i right?

And what elst does the Driver simulate?

LSainsbury 19-12-2010 15:56

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35140223)

But in the text they say

The driver simulates the front-end components of a PC/TV, including input selection, TvTuning, TvAudio control, and digital video streaming

So i think i can install the driver start my windows media center and then the TV Card driver should be in the List am i right?

And what elst does the Driver simulate?

No idea. Sorry. Why don't you read the specs to find out what it does - how are we suppose to know without looking as well?

tvvee 19-12-2010 16:01

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Because i dont have more information..

But front end components are TV Screen i think


Is that right?

Maybe the software emulates a complete TV Screen;)

Stuart 19-12-2010 16:13

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
The problem with what you are asking is simple. Unless you have a TV card, your computer does not contain the hardware necessary to recieve and decode broadcast TV.

Now, as I said, most TV channels do have live streams on their sites now, but these often contain copyright protection stopping them being used outside their website. Thus stopping you using them with other software.

There *are* programs around that can break this protection, but discussion of this is banned on the forum.

dilli-theclaw 19-12-2010 16:38

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
tvvee - are you sure you're not just after a tv card / usb stick that's compatible with ubuntu instead of windows?

tvvee 19-12-2010 16:40

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Yes

I just want to watch TV with my virtual Card

Sirius 19-12-2010 16:41

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35140256)
Yes

I just want to watch TV with my virtual Card

Would that be virtual TV

dilli-theclaw 19-12-2010 16:45

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35140256)
Yes

I just want to watch TV with my virtual Card

If all you want to do is watch TV on your ubuntu system why do you need a VIRTUAL as opposed to a physical card?

Kymmy 19-12-2010 16:47

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
I wonder though where the ubuntu system came into all of this, especially with the original title

tvvee 19-12-2010 16:48

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Hello

Because i dont want to buy a card..

I want to safe my money

Stuart 19-12-2010 16:51

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Watch the live streams from the channels then.

Kymmy 19-12-2010 16:52

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
:rofl:

USB TV cards are about £10..

dilli-theclaw 19-12-2010 16:58

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35140262)
I wonder though where the ubuntu system came into all of this, especially with the original title

He mentions elsewhere he has an ubuntu system ;)

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35139792-post33.html

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35139803-post35.html

tvvee 19-12-2010 17:05

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Hello

Yes thats right..

dilli-theclaw 19-12-2010 17:09

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35140279)
Hello

Yes thats right..

So just to get this all straight..

You don't have a windows pc. All you are after doing is watching TV on your linux / ubuntu machine?

But you don't want to pay the £10 ish for a usb stick or use say ilplayer?

Sirius 19-12-2010 17:27

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701 (Post 35140282)
So just to get this all straight..

You don't have a windows pc. All you are after doing is watching TV on your linux / ubuntu machine?

But you don't want to pay the £10 ish for a usb stick or use say ilplayer?

So the next questions will be.

How do i watch the TV over the Internet. :LOL:

dilli-theclaw 19-12-2010 17:33

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Dunno, but I'm just trying to get exactly what it is he / she wants :)

Sirius 19-12-2010 18:03

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701 (Post 35140296)
Dunno, but I'm just trying to get exactly what it is he / she wants :)

I could tell you but i would be banned :)

Scrubbs 19-12-2010 18:07

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
well, this has beeen quite entertaining.:D Can't wait to see what our friends going to ask next?:)

tvvee 19-12-2010 18:36

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
@dilligaf1701

Yes thats the situation

Sirius 19-12-2010 18:55

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrubbs (Post 35140309)
well, this has been quite entertaining.:D Can't wait to see what our friends going to ask next?:)

Look here and be amazed

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35140320-post1.html

tvvee 19-12-2010 19:00

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
And you should answer with no jokes my dear!

dilli-theclaw 19-12-2010 19:05

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35140341)
And you should answer with no jokes my dear!

With all /due/ respect you would help yourself if you asked the right questions.

I'm still trying to work out how we got from here


http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35134569-post1.html

to Here

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35140282-post62.html

Sirius 19-12-2010 19:28

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35140341)
And you should answer with no jokes my dear!

Who's joking

tvvee 19-12-2010 19:32

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Well you are joking at the moment

Sirius 19-12-2010 19:35

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35140369)
Well you are joking at the moment

Am i

tvvee 19-12-2010 19:38

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
I am nor sure but i think so


Correct me if i am wrong..

Hugh 19-12-2010 21:24

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Play nicely, please.....

Stuart 19-12-2010 22:11

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35140291)
So the next questions will be.

How do i watch the TV over the Internet. :LOL:

A little difficult if you take into account the other question he/she has asked. which is how to set up a virtual network connection.

Sirius 19-12-2010 22:18

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35140465)
A little difficult if you take into account the other question he/she has asked. which is how to set up a virtual network connection.

I wonder if he lives in second life as well. :)

LSainsbury 20-12-2010 07:27

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvvee (Post 35140341)
And you should answer with no jokes my dear!

Is that a threat? If so they won't be tollerated here and I'm sure a moderator will be along to give you a spank soon.

Hugh 20-12-2010 09:21

Re: Looking for a TV Emulator for Windows7
 
I think it is more of a translation issue than a threat, as that would not be allowed......


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