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Tim Deegan 15-02-2012 12:17

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35382245)
Yes, my sister has to pay an extra £8 pm on top of her Sky tv package for insurance.

So in the long run it's more expensive that VM.

New to cable 15-02-2012 12:21

Re: Considering going for a Tivo box! Help to answer questions pls
 
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35382245)
Yes, my sister has to pay an extra £8 pm on top of her Sky tv package for insurance.

Your sister is wasting money then as she could..

A- Buy a box fo ebay for around £40 if hers broke.Perfectly legal and Sky are happy to pair the card.

B- Pay a 1 time service charge of £60 for a service call which would inspect replace, cable,dish,box if any were found to be faulty.

Digital Fanatic 15-02-2012 12:23

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35382247)
So in the long run it's more expensive that VM.

Certainly if you take the insurance out it is, yeah.

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Originally Posted by New to cable (Post 35382249)
Your sister is wasting money then as she could..

A- Buy a box fo ebay for around £40 if hers broke.Perfectly legal and Sky are happy to pair the card.

B- Pay a 1 time service charge of £60 for a service call which would inspect replace, cable,dish,box if any were found to be faulty.

It's a 1TB Sky HD box.. would she really be able to get one for that price?

Tim Deegan 15-02-2012 12:27

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Originally Posted by New to cable (Post 35382249)
Your sister is wasting money then as she could..

A- Buy a box fo ebay for around £40 if hers broke.Perfectly legal and Sky are happy to pair the card.

B- Pay a 1 time service charge of £60 for a service call which would inspect replace, cable,dish,box if any were found to be faulty.

I was told by Sky themselves that if I didn't take out their warranty, then it could cost me a call out, plus £200 for a new box.....so I told them that I would challenge that under the Sale of Goods Act, and wouldn't have to pay anywhere near £200.

New to cable 15-02-2012 12:30

Re: Considering going for a Tivo box! Help to answer questions pls
 
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35382250)
Certainly if you take the insurance out it is, yeah.

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It's a 1TB Sky HD box.. would she really be able to get one for that price?

She would for the £60 service call fee. But chances are just like your DVD player,TV.Microwave,Bluray,Computer,Games console...Your Skybox will last many many years.

Why pay £96 a year because something MIGHT happen to a Sky box that sky will replace for £60is something DOES happen. Makes no sense.

Digital Fanatic 15-02-2012 12:33

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Originally Posted by New to cable (Post 35382259)
She would for the £60 service call fee. But chances are just like your DVD player,TV.Microwave,Bluray,Computer,Games console...Your Skybox will last many many years.

Why pay £96 a year because something MIGHT happen to a Sky box that sky will replace for £60is something DOES happen. Makes no sense.

Sky are ripping customers off then with that insurance. so if her 1TB Sky HD box breaksdown, she pays £60 and gets a new box?

New to cable 15-02-2012 12:41

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35382260)
Sky are ripping customers off then with that insurance. so if her 1TB Sky HD box breaksdown, she pays £60 and gets a new box?

The insurance is not Sky, its a secondary company I believe. Another thing most people forget is your Sky box is probably covered for failure or accidental damage by your house insurance.

But the insurance gets you a brandnew box, the £60 is a refurb. It horses for course I guess.

I don't have any cover on my Sky+HD boxes and one is a drx790 probably 3 years old. Works fine just it only has a 360Gb HDD inside (which I can swapout myself for a upto 2TB) .

denphone 15-02-2012 12:43

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35382247)
So in the long run it's more expensive that VM.

Exactly.

Tim Deegan 15-02-2012 12:48

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Originally Posted by New to cable (Post 35382265)
The insurance is not Sky, its a secondary company I believe. Another thing most people forget is your Sky box is probably covered for failure or accidental damage by your house insurance.

Extended warranties are almost always done through another company. But it would have been a Sky department. But I know what you mean.

Extended warranties are never worth the money. Just try mentioning SOGA to the sales rep, and they soon shut up.

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Originally Posted by New to cable (Post 35382265)
But the insurance gets you a brandnew box, the £60 is a refurb. It horses for course I guess.

I don't have any cover on my Sky+HD boxes and one is a drx790 probably 3 years old. Works fine just it only has a 360Gb HDD inside (which I can swapout myself for a upto 2TB) .

I never had cover on mine either, but mine did need replacing in the first year. The second one I never had any problems with.

I was happy with Sky, but a saving of £70 per month is a no brainer. So I changed to VM. But it was only after I changed that I found out how much better the Tivo box is. In fact I'm still finding out new things it can do now.

New to cable 15-02-2012 12:57

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35382247)
So in the long run it's more expensive that VM.

Ya know, its so hard to realistically work out which is cheaper over say 3 years. There are so many variables but I think it suits both companys to leave it like that.

I have 3 Sky+hd boxes and HD, Full price would Multiroomx2 HD pack x1 so just that should be £30

VM 3 recordable TiVo's would from March Tivo fee £5 x3 plus £6.50 x2 multiroom fee plus £7 premium HD. that's £35

I now have a 14Mb internet and phoneline with sky unlimited weekend and evening calls and unlimited internet that would be full price £19.75 with Sky.

10Mb with phone line and unlimited weekend and evening calls is £33 a month with VM.

But for instance my HD pack is discounted to £5, my multirooms are £7.50 each etc. I got free line rental, not many VM customers out there pay £33 for just 10Mb with a phoneline..

It is nigh on impossible to work out who is actually cheaper so it comes down to what you want from your provider.

Tim Deegan 15-02-2012 13:18

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Originally Posted by New to cable (Post 35382281)
Ya know, its so hard to realistically work out which is cheaper over say 3 years. There are so many variables but I think it suits both companys to leave it like that.

I have 3 Sky+hd boxes and HD, Full price would Multiroomx2 HD pack x1 so just that should be £30

VM 3 recordable TiVo's would from March Tivo fee £5 x3 plus £6.50 x2 multiroom fee plus £7 premium HD. that's £35

I now have a 14Mb internet and phoneline with sky unlimited weekend and evening calls and unlimited internet that would be full price £19.75 with Sky.

10Mb with phone line and unlimited weekend and evening calls is £33 a month with VM.

But for instance my HD pack is discounted to £5, my multirooms are £7.50 each etc. I got free line rental, not many VM customers out there pay £33 for just 10Mb with a phoneline..

It is nigh on impossible to work out who is actually cheaper so it comes down to what you want from your provider.

Yes I agree, as it all depends on your package, and your circumstances. However with my package, like I said, I save £70 per month, and that was what decided it for me before I found out how much better the Tivo is than the Sky box.

Both Sky and VM will try to out do each other. So if you called VM, they would probably beat your Sky package just to get your custom. But in my case Sky just conceded defeat, because they couldn't come close.

New to cable 15-02-2012 13:31

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35382291)
Yes I agree, as it all depends on your package, and your circumstances. However with my package, like I said, I save £70 per month, and that was what decided it for me before I found out how much better the Tivo is than the Sky box.

Both Sky and VM will try to out do each other. So if you called VM, they would probably beat your Sky package just to get your custom. But in my case Sky just conceded defeat, because they couldn't come close.

£70 saving? Jesus and you have 3 phonelines 2 TV boxes and 100Mb BB, So what TV package do you have and what are you paying VM. An what the hell did you have on Sky. You must of had like 5 Multiroom boxes.

Although I see you only have 2 VM boxes so I assume you only had 2 on sky.

Ok I built a bundle of 100Mb, TV-L and phone with a second box on VM that comes to £74 only including 1 phoneline an you have 3 so you're saving £70 from what you were paying Sky.

So your Sky package was AT LEAST £144??? Jezz you must of had like 6 multiroom boxes- But then thats not a saving as you would of downgraded for VM- What was your Sky package dude?

So your Sky package was atleast

Tim Deegan 15-02-2012 13:45

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Originally Posted by New to cable (Post 35382302)
£70 saving? Jesus and you have 3 phonelines 2 TV boxes and 100Mb BB, So what TV package do you have and what are you paying VM. An what the hell did you have on Sky. You must of had like 5 Multiroom boxes.

Although I see you only have 2 VM boxes so I assume you only had 2 on sky.

Ok I built a bundle of 100Mb, TV-L and phone with a second box on VM that comes to £74 only including 1 phoneline an you have 3 so you're saving £70 from what you were paying Sky.

So your Sky package was AT LEAST £144??? Jezz you must of had like 6 multiroom boxes- But then thats not a saving as you would of downgraded for VM- What was your Sky package dude?

So your Sky package was atleast

No it's far more complicated than that I'm afraid. :erm:

New to cable 15-02-2012 13:51

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35382311)
No it's far more complicated than that I'm afraid. :erm:

Nope, you just say what you had on Sky and how much it cost, then what you have on Virgin and how much you pay.

The services should almost identical or as close as possible and the Virginmedia one will show as £70 cheaper than the Sky one. It really is that simple. So off you go..

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35382311)
No it's far more complicated than that I'm afraid. :erm:

Nope, you just say what you had on Sky and how much it cost, then what you have on Virgin and how much you pay.

The services should almost identical or as close as possible and the Virginmedia one will show as £70 cheaper than the Sky one. It really is that simple. So off you go..

You didnt say you pay the same amount but get more EG-100Mb you said Sky is £70 more than VM, so I just wonder what you had on Sky and what you have on VM?

Tim Deegan 15-02-2012 14:02

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Originally Posted by New to cable (Post 35382314)
Nope, you just say what you had on Sky and how much it cost, then what you have on Virgin and how much you pay.

The services should almost identical or as close as possible and the Virginmedia one will show as £70 cheaper than the Sky one. It really is that simple. So off you go..

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Nope, you just say what you had on Sky and how much it cost, then what you have on Virgin and how much you pay.

The services should almost identical or as close as possible and the Virginmedia one will show as £70 cheaper than the Sky one. It really is that simple. So off you go..

You didnt say you pay the same amount but get more EG-100Mb you said Sky is £70 more than VM, so I just wonder what you had on Sky and what you have on VM?

You really need to read my earlier posts. And then take into account all sorts of packages to do with phone calls, etc...

Like I said, it's far more complicated. Lets just say I played Sky and VM off against each other, and ended up saving £70 per month by moving the lot to VM. Sky didn't even attempt to come close.


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