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sinewave 05-12-2016 09:51

VM in New House
 
Hi, I'm buying a new house which is in the process of being built and I've noted that VM will be installed as standard. Unfortunately, the standard install puts the VM outlets in the lounge area of the house and I would like an outlet in a different room. I can get hold of the VM shotgun cable and so can run an extension from the lounge to another location, I would only have 1 VM receiver connected at anyone time. My question is: what would be the best way to split the VM signal at the lounge to the other outlet, I'm guessing that I would use a broadband RF splitter, but is there a preferred component or does anyone have a recommendation. Any help would be appreciated.

pip08456 05-12-2016 10:09

Re: VM in New House
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_fr...itter&_sacat=0

Chris 05-12-2016 10:11

Re: VM in New House
 
A VM installer should do this for you as part of the install. The most you should need to do is have any awkward cable routes prepared (floor boards lifted or your own ducting installed, with string for pulling through).

You might get brownie points for pre installing official VM cable but I very much doubt they will allow you to use your own supplied splitter. Besides, why pay extra money for the stuff they will provide as part of the service?

vm_tech 05-12-2016 18:27

Re: VM in New House
 
Don't use any of those splitters. And be wary of cable. Air blown/honeycomb coax causes all sorts of grief

pip08456 05-12-2016 21:55

Re: VM in New House
 
I like honey!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW_5-DhV1gE

RB2004 06-12-2016 00:12

Re: VM in New House
 
You cant use shotgun cable inside the house I gather, which is why VM only use it as far as omni then separate coax and telephone cables from that point onwards.

Something to do with toxic fumes produced when burned.

sinewave 06-12-2016 12:17

Re: VM in New House
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RB2004 (Post 35873932)
You cant use shotgun cable inside the house I gather, which is why VM only use it as far as omni then separate coax and telephone cables from that point onwards.

Something to do with toxic fumes produced when burned.

My understanding from the site electrician is that the "shotgun" cable is fed into the house to the lounge area where it is split to the 2 output points, Data & RF.

vm_tech
"Don't use any of those splitters. And be wary of cable. Air blown/honeycomb coax causes all sorts of grief"

Can you offer a splitter option that I could use. Alternatively, I suppose that I could directly connect the extension cable at the VM outlet (using F type connectors is perhaps possible). This could remain concealed within the outlet and behind the dry lining.

What are thoughts on using WT100 coax as an alternative to the "shotgun" option.

Rgds

pip08456 06-12-2016 13:13

Re: VM in New House
 
http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/cable.htm

RB2004 06-12-2016 16:16

Re: VM in New House
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sinewave (Post 35874021)
My understanding from the site electrician is that the "shotgun" cable is fed into the house to the lounge area where it is split to the 2 output points, Data & RF.

vm_tech
"Don't use any of those splitters. And be wary of cable. Air blown/honeycomb coax causes all sorts of grief"

Can you offer a splitter option that I could use. Alternatively, I suppose that I could directly connect the extension cable at the VM outlet (using F type connectors is perhaps possible). This could remain concealed within the outlet and behind the dry lining.

What are thoughts on using WT100 coax as an alternative to the "shotgun" option.

Rgds

Shotgun shouldn't be.

it should be fed into a brown Omni box outside your house.

then from that Omni box it splits telecom and coax as 2 separate cables.

sinewave 06-12-2016 16:56

Re: VM in New House
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RB2004 (Post 35874114)
Shotgun shouldn't be.

it should be fed into a brown Omni box outside your house.

then from that Omni box it splits telecom and coax as 2 separate cables.

Thanks for this info, I'll double check on site during my visit next week. Do you know what standard of coax cable is used internally from the omi box?

Chris 06-12-2016 16:58

Re: VM in New House
 
It always used to be the case that a competent VM installer would refuse to hook anything up to a DIY job within the house.

The fact that the OP thinks f-connectors are "perhaps possible" (rather than a standard part of a CATV install) leaves me thinking he really doesn't have a clue what's required here and really needs to just leave well alone and let the VM installer handle it.

As I said earlier, put cable runs wherever you need them, with cord for pulling the cable through at a later date. You are at risk of wasting a lot of time and money unnecessarily.

nodrogd 07-12-2016 13:32

Re: VM in New House
 
If you must run internal cable pre-install then only use Webro HD100. Most satellite cable is only double screened. VM spec requires the use of triple screened cable indoors.

http://www.webro.com/coaxial/tv-satellite/hd100-cable/

weesteev 09-12-2016 15:05

Re: VM in New House
 
Can you not ask for an extra point to be fitted if the building is still at first fix? The standard fix for VM in new builds is 2 points, any extra will require wiring from a separate internal point where an HDU can be fitted. Ask your site sales rep if this is possible, otherwise you will have to ask the electrician directly or finally wait until you move in and have a VM tech install for you.


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