Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35399315)

Like I have said on many times, if the rich try and leave, there will have nowere to go

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35399333)

You are calling for the government to take capital out of the hands of those who would otherwise be able to decide for themselves how best to spend it, and to instead spend it on government-approved projects. That is the essence of a planned economy, Alan - business 'encouraged' to grow where a government thinks it should grow rather than where the normal principle of investment and return would otherwise encourage it to grow.

Governments are hopeless at spending our money. It costs a small fortune for them simply to collect and distribute it using a workforce that delivers measurably poorer productivity whilst continuing to demand longer holidays and gilt-edged pensions and taking the definition of 'off sick' to in some cases ridiculous extremes.

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35399325)

As the people who are sent on work placements etc are still on JSA adn are still expected to look for work, won't they still be in the unemployment figures as claiming benefit?

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35399337)

How are you going to stop them ,lock them up in a prison .Honestly Alan you seriously deranged .

You are an out and left wing socialist ,you believe that the state should provide us with everything from jobs to welfare ,everthing should be under state control and rich people have everything taken from them ,
You my friend will be the first one against the wall come the real revolution

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35399343)

No. that's the whole point of it. they get paid by the provider. like a4e/pertemps or whoever they are. it's dole money really but being paid by them now. the dole will pay the 'worker' about £1 a week just to keep their claim open.

so for the purpose of unemployment figures. these people are not registered as unemployed now.
so you can add how ever many thousands are on whatever course to make the true figures of unemployment.

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35399346)

What about the figures for the numer of people without decent jobs?

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35399352)

I haven't got them figures on me at the moment. Jill will have them but she's with a client :)

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35399346)

Any nation that accept them well be as well liked as the country that is guy leads

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35399357)

No alan ,any country that accepts all the rich people leaving this country to stop you getting your grubby little mits on their money will be loaded ,and therefore will be everybodies friend

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35399360)

Any nation that accepts tax exiles (the rich) would face sancions, boycotts, widrawal of dimplomatic relations and even the funding of anti-government gorups in those nations

In othere words a global "Pariah"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pariah

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35399343)

No. that's the whole point of it. they get paid by the provider. like a4e/pertemps or whoever they are. it's dole money really but being paid by them now. the dole will pay the 'worker' about £1 a week just to keep their claim open.

so for the purpose of unemployment figures. these people are not registered as unemployed now.
so you can add how ever many thousands are on whatever course to make the true figures of unemployment.

a lot of people don't know this. they probably think everything's honky dory :)

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35399396)

I don't understand your point Hugh?

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35399409)

Still don't get it really, but it doesn't matter.

whatever figures they're on it's still not a true number because of them not being counted when on a course.

so whatever list and count that the unemployed people that are on these courses there is. they're discounted/hidden from it.

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35399411)

The most important figure is how many people are not in decent jobs

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35399415)

Is that like working in McD's or a job with a decent wage?