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Mad Max 06-10-2017 14:36

SHUB3
 
Hi guys, quick question, can the SHUB 3 be connected to a power strip, or does it have to be powered directly from the wall socket?


Thanks

RobboEdin 06-10-2017 15:13

Re: SHUB3
 
Power strip is OK for Hub 3.0. It's only powerlines that may have issues with power strips, especially if they have surge protection.

Mad Max 06-10-2017 15:30

Re: SHUB3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35919268)
Power strip is OK for Hub 3.0. It's only powerlines that may have issues with power strips, especially if they have surge protection.

Thanks mate, so unplugging the Hub 3 from the power source wont affect any settings, in other words, is it just a case of powering it up again and leaving it to set itself up, and all the V6 boxes etc will work as previously installed?


Thanks.

RobboEdin 06-10-2017 18:16

Re: SHUB3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35919270)
Thanks mate, so unplugging the Hub 3 from the power source wont affect any settings, in other words, is it just a case of powering it up again and leaving it to set itself up, and all the V6 boxes etc will work as previously installed?


Thanks.

You can certainly power off the Hub 3.0 and move it to a different socket and all will be the same as before.

Mad Max 06-10-2017 18:35

Re: SHUB3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35919287)
You can certainly power off the Hub 3.0 and move it to a different socket and all will be the same as before.

Cheers for that......:)

Mad Max 25-10-2017 17:35

Re: SHUB3
 
Only had SHUB 3 a few weeks now, but I'm finding that the WiFi signal isn't as good as when I had the SHUB 2, it comes and goes, can anyone help or shed any light on what may be wrong?


Thx.

Mad Max 25-10-2017 23:36

Re: SHUB3
 
Nobody??

Kushan 26-10-2017 12:35

Re: SHUB3
 
As mentioned in your PM to me (you really should give people more time to respond :P), my advice if you're having wireless issues with any of the hubs is to just buy your own router.

Mad Max 26-10-2017 14:13

Re: SHUB3
 
Cheers for that, appreciate the replies.....

Paul 26-10-2017 19:47

Re: SHUB3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35921855)
Nobody??

Patience ?

General Maximus 26-10-2017 20:08

Re: SHUB3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35921855)
Nobody??

As Kush said, if you want a router which performs flawlessly without any wireless issues, dns issues, random reboots etc etc then you need to buy a proper router because freebies don't cut it. I used to endorse Linksys but they have gone down hill over the last couple of years and Asus is now the bees knees. Something like this would be a great start. It has been a while since we had a thread like this so I'll say this for the benefit of everyone reading. Lots and lots of forum users ask for help with the shub and/or advice on buying a new router but I would say only ~15% follow through with it. After all, who wants to spend ~£85 on a piece of equipment which you think you can get for free? The problem is that free stuff isn't the best, it is made on the cheap, poorly tested and never works properly.

Shubs are "okay" for the average user but with everyone having multiple wired and wireless devices spread throughout their houses these days you need something which can handle the load and deliver the kind of performance you expect. Companies like Asus make routers which are £100+ for a reason. Myself and Kush have got Asus routers, we set them up, configure our settings and just leave them there. They always work 100% and I never have a need to access the gui because something is "playing up" or because there might a problem. I download a tonne of stuff, I play fps and host games, I stream a lot of content from servers across the network to TV's, I have two networks printers, many laptops/phones/tablets and everything works perfectly all the time because I chose to invest in the most critical component which creates and manages the network and that is the router.

jobbie8 26-10-2017 20:12

Re: SHUB3
 
I was on the trail for SuperHub 3, it was white at the time. Because of issues with Chormecast I was switched back to the SuperHub 2ac.

I've received an email offering me a new SH3 free of charge, the wifi on 2ac is great in my home, unsure if I should take up the offer?

I still have the white SH3 in a cupboard.

General Maximus 26-10-2017 20:38

Re: SHUB3
 
Only if you need the speed (download throughput) or are suffering from congestion issues. The biggest advantage of the shub3 (and the only one i can think of anyway) is the fact that it can use 24 downstream channels vs the 8 the shubs 1 and 2 can use. I have never had any speed issues and would have been quite happy staying with the shub2 however when i upgraded to 350mbits i had to have the shub 3 so i could use the 20 channels which are currently available to me. Trying do it with 8 would have meant i would have needed all 8 channels just for me.

Mad Max 26-10-2017 20:45

Re: SHUB3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35921990)
As Kush said, if you want a router which performs flawlessly without any wireless issues, dns issues, random reboots etc etc then you need to buy a proper router because freebies don't cut it. I used to endorse Linksys but they have gone down hill over the last couple of years and Asus is now the bees knees. Something like this would be a great start. It has been a while since we had a thread like this so I'll say this for the benefit of everyone reading. Lots and lots of forum users ask for help with the shub and/or advice on buying a new router but I would say only ~15% follow through with it. After all, who wants to spend ~£85 on a piece of equipment which you think you can get for free? The problem is that free stuff isn't the best, it is made on the cheap, poorly tested and never works properly.

Shubs are "okay" for the average user but with everyone having multiple wired and wireless devices spread throughout their houses these days you need something which can handle the load and deliver the kind of performance you expect. Companies like Asus make routers which are £100+ for a reason. Myself and Kush have got Asus routers, we set them up, configure our settings and just leave them there. They always work 100% and I never have a need to access the gui because something is "playing up" or because there might a problem. I download a tonne of stuff, I play fps and host games, I stream a lot of content from servers across the network to TV's, I have two networks printers, many laptops/phones/tablets and everything works perfectly all the time because I chose to invest in the most critical component which creates and manages the network and that is the router.

Thanks very much for that, and I apologise for being so impatient! I'm no expert on anything like this, far from it actually, and I appreciate any advice given, I have been reading about homeplugs and how they improve your WiFi signal, in your opinion is this an acceptable method to increase the signal in areas of the house which are quite far from the SHUB 3 that have a weak signal? Are they a cheaper option than a router with the same results?


Thx

General Maximus 26-10-2017 22:48

Re: SHUB3
 
It's a bit of a 50/50 tbh. I would personally take the view of killing two birds with one stone and go with buying a proper router. In addition to better wireless performance you are going to benefit in many other areas as well. That being said, if you live in a ginormous house one router/access point might not cut and this is where the homeplugs come in. They can "potentially" offer better speeds because they'll be closer to the devices they are serving but it may also backfire on you big time. Because they run over your electrical circuit the signal is prone to interference and other problems and sometimes the plugs randomly lose their connection etc and it can make troubleshooting any wireless connectivity issues with a client (e.g. your laptop) a pain in the ass.

I would personally buy a proper router (which won't be much more expensive than a set of homeplugs) and try it in the location where the shub is. If you don't think the wireless performance is good enough then you can always get some flat cat5e to run under the carpet downstairs/to another room so you can reposition the router to a more centralised location for optimal wireless connectivity.

Mad Max 26-10-2017 23:26

Re: SHUB3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35922003)
It's a bit of a 50/50 tbh. I would personally take the view of killing two birds with one stone and go with buying a proper router. In addition to better wireless performance you are going to benefit in many other areas as well. That being said, if you live in a ginormous house one router/access point might not cut and this is where the homeplugs come in. They can "potentially" offer better speeds because they'll be closer to the devices they are serving but it may also backfire on you big time. Because they run over your electrical circuit the signal is prone to interference and other problems and sometimes the plugs randomly lose their connection etc and it can make troubleshooting any wireless connectivity issues with a client (e.g. your laptop) a pain in the ass.

I would personally buy a proper router (which won't be much more expensive than a set of homeplugs) and try it in the location where the shub is. If you don't think the wireless performance is good enough then you can always get some flat cat5e to run under the carpet downstairs/to another room so you can reposition the router to a more centralised location for optimal wireless connectivity.

Thanks....:)

General Maximus 27-10-2017 11:37

Re: SHUB3
 
I know it is coming up to xmas and pennies are tight but think of a router as TV and something you want to work properly but also something you want to use, enjoy and benefit from everyday for the next 2-3 years. If/when you are ready to buy your router don't be cheap; if it is worth doing then it is worth doing properly and I cannot recommend Asus enough. Take the time to have a look at all the different models on Amazon and decide which is best for you. Some routers are now triband and AC5300 which sounds great but unless your devices (and more importantly their network adapters) also support the technology then you aren't going to benefit from it. The high end routers also have multiple usb ports and eSATA so you can connect printers and hard drives and you can run network printing and shared storage but once again, if you don't need it then you don't buy it. The router I suggested above is a great mid-range router and is good for 836mbits wan to lan throughput (download speed) so you know it is going to last you a while.

I was going to suggest staying away from places like Currys because they normally charge a load more for the same thing but I have just had a quick look and oddly enough it is the same price so if it makes you happier you could get it from there.

cje85 27-10-2017 11:55

Re: SHUB3
 
nothing to see here!

RobboEdin 27-10-2017 12:12

Re: SHUB3
 
cje85, have you checked a PM you should have received on the Virgin Media community forum?

cje85 27-10-2017 12:21

Re: SHUB3
 
Yes, I received it at exactly 12:00, but had no idea that they didn't want it discussed in public before that. I'm not a VM trialist and have never applied to be one. Various others have posted about it on the VM forum so it seems the messages were sent too late. From now on I won't be commenting further on the update.

Paul 27-10-2017 14:57

Re: SHUB3
 
So they are releasing new firmware versions to people who didnt ask, and then wanting them to keep it secret ?

Seems a bit cheeky to me.

adduxi 27-10-2017 15:10

Re: SHUB3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35922090)
So they are releasing new firmware versions to people who didnt ask, and then wanting them to keep it secret ?

Seems a bit cheeky to me.

I can't comment but to say I am in the original "white" Hub 3 trials and have received an update.

cje85 27-10-2017 15:28

Re: SHUB3
 
The message sent to me began with "Following your participation on the Hub 3.0 latency thread ...." so some non trialists who have taken part in that thread have been chosen too.

It's still being openly discussed by some other users on the VM forum (Gaming section), and VM have merged my original thread about the update in to the existing latency thread rather than deleting it, but i'll respect their wish and not make any specific comments regarding the firmware itself.

Ignitionnet 27-10-2017 15:39

Re: SHUB3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cje85 (Post 35922096)
The message sent to me began with "Following your participation on the Hub 3.0 latency thread ...." so some non trialists who have taken part in that thread have been chosen too.

It's still being openly discussed by some other users on the VM forum (Gaming section), and VM have merged my original thread about the update in to the existing latency thread rather than deleting it, but i'll respect their wish and not make any specific comments regarding the firmware itself.

I'll save your time. This firmware is bovine excreta. It handles pings and DNS requests differently from everything else, so it makes Think Broadband BQM graphs look prettier and bodges tests done via DNS requests.

Intel continue to be unable to fix the underlying problem so just hid it for a small subset of traffic. They can't do it for everything because it would kill throughput.

General Maximus 27-10-2017 17:40

Re: SHUB3
 
doesn't surprise me at all

Kushan 28-10-2017 21:52

Re: SHUB3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35921993)
Thanks very much for that, and I apologise for being so impatient! I'm no expert on anything like this, far from it actually, and I appreciate any advice given, I have been reading about homeplugs and how they improve your WiFi signal, in your opinion is this an acceptable method to increase the signal in areas of the house which are quite far from the SHUB 3 that have a weak signal? Are they a cheaper option than a router with the same results?


Thx

I would not bother with Homeplugs. They depend entirely on the quality of the wiring in your house, plus you have to deal with things like devices being on separate rings and they can end up being as much of a nightmare as wireless.

For what you'd pay for a decent set of homeplugs, you can get a decent router. Any of the Asus routers would be a good shout.

mhatter67 16-11-2017 17:10

Re: SHUB3
 
I recently upgraded to V6 Tivo (like a lot of people) and also had a new Superhub 3 installed at the same time! Now I am having problems with my homeplugs keep loosing connection.

For the record my superb is in the bedroom and all my multimedia devices including the V6 are down stairs, the home plugs are TP-Link TL-PA211KIT AV200 Nano 200Mbps Powerline Adapter - Twin Pack and I have a desktop switch downstairs to TP-LINK TL-SF1005D 5-Port 10/100 Mbps Unmanaged Desktop Switch - White

Sounds stupid but just by switching off either the switch or home plug for a few seconds reconnects the home plugs with the superhub again!

Any help would be extremely grateful as I am using wireless at the moment that seems to be a more secure connection,

Thanks

Mark


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