Piracy: end of the road in sight?
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27330150

Somehow I get the impression that at best it'll take the edge off the flow of piracy for perhaps a day or so the back to normal.

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If anything it'll probably just prompt more people to use services like seedboxes for now as this new policy doesn't bring any repercussions with it. At least for the time being while the data gathered remains private.

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Does anyone actually bother using more than 1 proxy?

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It's so that when proper stats show these measures don't do diddly, it'll add teeth & strength to the argument to do the digital economy act

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Yes.

The media corps will keep pushing year after year until they get what they want. Vcap is voluntary so it's the isp's choice to participate and it would be great if lots of customers left them to join other isp's, stating their reason as their involvement with this programme. They might think twice about pandering to the media lobby groups again.

So it may scare a few parents who will shout at their kids about it but everyone else will know just to ignore such emails and letters.

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It will not stem the tide. If you are going to use torrents then use a VPN and private tracker. If you are going to use the newsgroups then use a VPN.
The only way you would then be picked up on by the BPI goons is if the ISP's are using DPI devices and are intercepting encrypted traffic (which to my knowledge they are not). The only people that will get letters are those daft enough to use non private trackers and without using a vpn. So the answer is wear protection people. :)

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The only problem I have with everyone moving to VPN's is eventually the media company's will lobby governments to force VPN's to log data which they will jump at for their own spying reasons. Once that happens, they are pretty close to having their controlled internet.

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There will all ways be ways around anything they do because they are reactive not proactive :D

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Indeed i use one all the time to login to my work pc.

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I thought by the title of the thread that there had been somekind of breakthrough in Somalia or something.

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They won't be able to touch private corporate VPN's but those offering a public service will no doubt at some point be treated in a similar way to ISP's in that they offer the public data services.

Part of the Vcap agreement involves keeping customer data logged for a year yet a recent EU judgement has stated that ISP's may no longer log customers data. Some ISP's in Sweden and Holland have already deleted data logged from customers yet it has been quiet on the ISP front here. As the Vcap agreement to log 1 year of data has to go before the data commissioner they should honour the EU ruling. I doubt they will though as the media lobby groups are pulling the strings.

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It will help somewhat, it'll stop the many casual downloaders who don't take any precautions.

Longer term international agreements to catch people who are using VPNs at exit points are probably the way forward.

Here's hoping the baby doesn't go out with the bathwater. The extent to which my privacy and those of many others is under threat due to people downloading things they probably shouldn't is alarming. I see the content providers' point but don't appreciate it at all.

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The way forward is to offer good services at a decent price so people use that instead of pirating. Spotify for instance converted a lot of mp3 pirates to paying customers which also passed on some cash to the music labels which they were not getting before. The same with Netflix.

Yet the MAFIAA (MPAA and RIAA) are always attacking the various legal services in various ways, be it asking for silly high royalties or by withholding content from them. Even paying customers who signup for video streaming in another country as things appear there faster are now having their VPN's blocked. So instead of paying they will go back to pirating. It's stupid.

The media corporations are the reason piracy continues to be such an issue with all their silly licencing agreements. They can fix it but they won't, in the name of generating more profits although it is debatable as to if they achieve that.

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Whatever they offer it won't compete with free. Some will always roll the dice.

PC games certainly have suffered heavily from piracy. It's a real problem especially given the massive development costs many games incur now.

He says looking up from the binary he's reverse engineering during lunch break.

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I have not needed to download as much as i used to due to the likes of Netflix, Spotify, Digitally imported, the list goes on. However there is still stuff out there that the mainstream providers will not carry due to age or they have a lower viewer status. also they still sit with the outdated costs and try to charge as much for a digital download as they would for the physical item.